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- From: alanf@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Alan M Feuerbacher)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Yet Another Saturn Myth Variant
- Message-ID: <8412@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 19:06:22 GMT
- References: <1993Jan21.134106.16927@linus.mitre.org> <1993Jan22.020227.26701@galois.mit.edu> <244@fedfil.UUCP>
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- In article <244@fedfil.UUCP> news@fedfil.UUCP (news) writes:
- > [stuff on 1/r^2 laws deleted]
- >
- >Put the earth in the center
- >of two electromagnetic stars, a small binary such as Saturn/Jupiter in
- >which the partners had unequal electromagnetic fields, and the earth might
- >take up residence at the point at which all forces balanced, which I'd
- >assume would be closer to one of the two stars than to the other. The
- >gravitational pull would certainly be uneven.
-
- The problem with this is that any balancing among gravitational and
- magnetic forces is inherently unstable. Gravitational fields are
- low-order and follow a 1/r^2 law, while magnetic fields are higher
- order and follow a 1/r^3 law at large distances. Any object balanced
- perfectly among such competing forces would immediately fall out of
- balance.
-
- Have you ever tried to suspend a piece of iron underneath a magnet so
- that it hangs by the magnetic field? It immediatley is pulled to the
- magnet or it falls down. It's like balancing a pencil on its point.
-
- A wonderful demonstration of this is given at MIT to electrical
- engineering students taking the feedback theory course. Professor
- Jim Roberge, I believe, built an apparatus that uses op-amp circuits
- to control an electromagnet to suspend a large ball bearing against
- the pull of gravity. The stability problem is very hard to solve
- and the apparatus is very easy to defeat by tapping the ball bearing
- so that it moves out of the sweet spot.
-
- A similar problem is encountered in making a stable spot in the
- Tokamaks used in nuclear fusion power research. The magnetic fields
- are notoriously hard to balance against the electric fields such that
- a plasma is confined.
-
- Alan Feuerbacher
- alanf@atlas.pen.tek.com
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