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- From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: "Severe" errors by Greenpeace
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:53:19 GMT
- Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
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- Message-ID: <Jym.27Jan1993.1753@naughty-peahen>
- References: <1993Jan13.050505.2746@truffula.sj.ca.us>
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- > In article <1jg9n3INNihe@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >> How about their call for elimination of *ALL* uses of
- >> chlorine? I've heard of low-salt diets, but that was ridiculous!
- > Where is the severe error of fact?
-
- =o= The severe error of fact is in Carl Lydick's restatement.
-
- > Was the environmental hazard of organochlorines misstated in any
- > quantifiable way? Are you simply objecting to the writing style?
-
- =o= Carl's complaints in this respect are pretty useless. There
- was exactly one intelligent comment on the matter, which I'm
- attaching below. Perhaps it's an appropriate query to send off
- to greenpeace-knocks?
- <_Jym_>
- ================================================================
- => From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
- => Newsgroups: sci.environment
- => Subject: Re: ... Austria Releases Study of its Chlorine Industry
- => Date: 15 Aug 91 16:25:45 GMT
-
- Come on, guys, deliberate misreadings of the Greenpeace paper to imply
- salt should be banned serve only to cheapen the debate. Clearly they
- meant organochlorine compounds.
-
- Greenpeace will have to explain, however, why banning all manufacture
- of *all* these compounds is necessary, in light of findings [1] that
- organohalogen compounds are produced in nature in large amounts, and
- are ubiquitous in soils around the world. Worldwide, organochlorine
- to organic carbon ratios in soils were in the range of .22 to 2.8 mg
- Cl/g C. Some remote, humic-rich, oligotrophic lakes in Sweden had
- adsorbable organohalogen concentrations as high as 185 ug Cl/L
- comparable to those in industrially polluted rivers, like the Rhine.
- Mass balance calculations strongly indicate local, nonanthropogenic
- sources dominate, rather than deposition of industrial pollutants over
- long ranges.
-
- [1] G. Asplund, A. Grimvall. Environ. Sci. Technol., Vol 25, No. 8,
- pp. 1346-1350, 1991.
-
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-
- Paul F. Dietz
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu
-