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- From: pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis)
- Subject: Re: The Real Challenge
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:05:24 GMT
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- In article <JMC.93Jan23183736@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >Was our life impoverished by finding a substitute for the whale oil
- >used in lamps?
- >
- >It is conceivable that we shall have to substitute
- >for high quality wood, which is indeed being rapidly used up. More
- >likely, we will succeed in getting high quality wood from tree farms.
- >As long as there is plenty of grain, there is no problem with meat.
- >Should we need to devote the present grain land to producing food
- >directly consumed by humans, then we can use synthetic carbohydrates
- >and bacterial proteins to feed our cattle and chickens. As for fish,
- >note that a substantial fraction of the salmon sold is already farm
- >raised.
-
- Cameron and Jym have already dealt with the wood issue. I merely note
- that most scientists working with salmon and trout farms are
- desperately worried about the "long term" potential (as in 10-20
- years) of such farms. A researcher in Oregon is studying, for
- instance, why the feeding habits on such farms might make farm raised
- fish much more suspectible to genetic damage, predation and social
- conflict. On the NW coast of Scotland, the word is that accidental
- releases of farm-raised fish guarantee the release of genetic disease
- into the wild population. There have been several mass killings of
- trout farm stock because they had become so sick.
-
- Maybe John doesn't mind the idea of eating these things. I do.
-
- As for grains in general, many agencies, including those of the UN,
- have raised serious alarms about the diminishing genetic stock of
- grains. In S.E. Asia, rice phenotypes have diminished from more than
- 50 major strains down to less than 10 in less than 50 years. The major
- players in genetic conservation are seed companies, who see incredible
- potential for profit if and when the rest of the world's grain crop
- suffers a major blight.
-
- Maybe John doesn't mind being dependent on a handful of grain strains
- and even fewer companies in order to feed 35 billion people. I do.
-
- >As for the inspirational message, when the content is mistaken,
- >flowery rhetoric can't save the message.
-
- No disagreement here. But we've noted much the same about your
- arithmetic too, John.
-
- -- paul
- --
- hybrid rather than pure; compromising rather than clean; | Militant Agnostic
- distorted rather than straightforward; ambiguous rather than| I Don't Know
- articulated; both-and rather than either-or; the difficult | and You Don't
- unity of inclusion rather than the easy unity of exclusion. | Know Either
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