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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: Greenpeace press releases -- fact or fiction?
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:54:05 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- In article <1993Jan24.202500.2302@truffula.sj.ca.us>, cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
- >In article <1jtullINN2sr@gap.caltech.edu>, Carl J Lydick writes:
- >>In article <1jr5ceINN16a@gap.caltech.edu>, Carl J Lydick writes:
- >>>For the innumerates like Jym Dyer among you...
- >>It's rather telling that Victor-the-idiot Yackadamn chose to flame me over my
- >>presumption that GreenHype ...
- >
- >Why is it necessary to throw personal insults?
-
- That wasn't a personal insult. It was simply a statement of Dyer's
- demonstrated innumeracy. For example, in the discussion we had a while back
- about GreenHype's press release concerning the detection of Pu on beaches near
- Sellafield, Jym never seemed to catch on to the fact that the amount of
- plutonium was important, nor to the fact that GreenHype was once again
- propagandizing without providing any real information by issuing that release
- without stating anything about concentrations.
-
- >Is hatred *ever*
- >constructive? Is it only my imagination or do Greenpeace detractors
- >resort to insults and personal abuse much more frequently than
- >Greenpeace subscribers? What does abusive language say about the
- >speaker's personal values?
-
- It says, in my case, that I'm fed up with GreenHype's incessant use of
- misleading press releases, and of those who promulgate them.
-
- >
- >>for example, the release posted by Jym a couple of months ago that made
- >>a big thing about the fact that plutonium had been detected on the beaches near
- >>Sellafield, but neglected to say anything at all about concentrations).
- >
- >The scandal is that plutonium was released at all, not in what
- >concentration it was released. It shows the plant is not being
- >operated responsibly.
-
- Yup. Yet another innumerate. How much Pu was found? It doesn't matter,
- you say? I see. It makes no difference whether there was only a single atom
- of Pu on the entire beach or whether the entire beach was plated with metallic
- Pu, according to your claim. Neither of these extremes was likely to be the
- case, but you innumerate prattlings don't distinguish between them.
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- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL
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- Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-