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- From: jjh00@diag.amdahl.com (Joel Hanes)
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: "A Quarter Billion Years" (Greenpeace Press Releases)
- Keywords: rebuttal
- Message-ID: <89OV0240335c01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 21:00:39 GMT
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- I wrote:
- >#
- ># I quit reading GreenPeace press releases
- ># as a result of my conversations with Jason, and because of
- ># the high volume and low information content of the postings.
- ># I imagine that many other talk.environment folks who
- ># are competent to detect such errors have done likewise.
- >
- jamesh@aifh.ed.ac.uk (James Hammerton) writes:
- >
- >I have usually only skimmed these postings until recently when I felt that
- >the Greenpeace bashing was becoming very strong, and I felt that I should
- >try to defend them when and where I could back it up with evidence. Recent
- >postings of press releases don't seem to have been as bad as you make out,
- >but I'll admit to having missed a lot of earlier ones. The trouble was that
- >I saw some discussions where the followups seemed as bad as many on this
- >group feel the press releases are ...
-
- agreed. I skip most of the "GreenPeace rebuttal" articles
- as well, for the same reason -- as you point out, some of
- them are nearly as strident and content-free as the GP
- press releases they address.
-
- However, I have found that Russ Brown, Mr. Parsons, Jim
- Hurst, and a few others actually provide hard information,
- with citations, and I try to read their postings closely,
-
- >Finally I would like to ask(out of interest) what people's opinions on
- >other environmental groups are and why? Specifically the following:
-
- (list deleted)
-
- It's my perception that The Wilderness Society, The Nature Conservancy,
- the absurdly-named Natural Resources Defense Council, and,
- in California, Citizens for a Better Environment are doing
- top-flight work on environmental issues, motivated by an
- accurate understanding of the science, and a pragmatic
- approach to politics. I'd say that the Sierra Club and
- National Audubon society are almost as good; I give money
- to all these folks.
-
- Your mileage may, of course, vary.
-
- ---
- Joel Hanes
-