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- From: markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Responsibility (WAS Abortion, Caves, Galen, etc)
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:14:54 GMT
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- In <9301267894@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca> root@rwsys.wimsey.bc.ca (Superuser) writes:
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- >pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN) writes:
- >> In article <1993Jan25.143139.21172@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >> >In article <1993Jan25.030628.21585@julian.uwo.ca> larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE) writes:
- >> >>2. Go through with it and dump the baby at the door of some "anti-choice"
- >> >>activist or an impotent family who would kill for a baby.
- >> >
- >> >You are neglecting the impact on the woman's life of having to go through
- >> >an entire unwanted pregnancy.
- >>
- >> Oh, boo-hoo. Better to go through with what many would consider murder?
- >> Unless the woman was raped, she is partially responsible for being pregnant.
- >> Eventually, you have to accept responsibility for your own actions.
- >>
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- >I'm a 42 year old, white, employed male. Somebody informed me the other
- >day that I am now the establishment. Frankly, I wouldn't have known had
- >it not been pointed out to me. I'm no longer, as I have believed, the
- >disenfranchised. If there is a responsibility that I think ought to be
- >shouldered, I have to stand up here and do it rather than carping about
- >the "system". I am the system.
-
- >The building of a highway is an acceptance of responsibility. There is
- >no shirking of responsibility in working together for some common goal.
- >I am willing to work together with the woman who wants an abortion.
-
- >I am willing to help out with the responsilbilites as a tax payer by
- >asking that my tax dollars be spent on abortions where unwanted pregnancy
- >has not been prevented. And by asking that no one who seeks an abortion
- >finds the process made more painful by state imposed obstacles. And
- >by asking that the woman be allowed to make the decision that she will
- >have to live with, rather than having those decisions imposed upon her.
-
- >This is my will not just because there are too many of us, but because
- >I can't stomach the idea of sentencing some woman to a course of child
- >bearing or child rearing for the "crime" of having sex.
-
- >I've seen women starving themselves, implanting themselves with deadly
- >silicon tits and inflated lips.. all sort of self destruction and self
- >distortion in what appears to be an attempt to attract men. In this
- >context, having risky sex may be a mistake, sometimes even an insanity,
- >but not a crime. I'm not willing to punish people who appear to me to be
- >ensnared in this cultural tsunami that inter-gender relations have become.
-
- >If I truly saw abortion as murder.. the taking of life, rather than
- >the prevention of life, I must admit, my thinking might be different.
-
- I'm glad you agree that this is a crucial question.
-
- >In fact, I see the blocking of abortion as the depriving of a woman of
- >her freedom.
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- Mark Pundurs
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