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- From: vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
- Subject: Re: Estimates of the incidence of illegal abortions
- References: <1993Jan15.233521. <1993Jan23.010405.8289@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu <1993Jan26.045132.585@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <C1HGLC.6wz@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:25:30 GMT
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- lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan26.045132.585@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> acolman@nyx.cs.du.edu
- >(Alison Colman) writes:
- >>In article <C1Frr7.9zA@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
- >>>In article <1993Jan23.010405.8289@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> acolman@nyx.cs.du
- >>edu
- >>>(Alison Colman) writes:
- >>>
- >>>>As to whether the availibility of abortion will influence the sexual
- >>>>behavior of people in this country, it's pretty hard to predict. I know
- >>>>for myself, if abortion was made illegal in Pennsylvania, it wouldn't b
- >>
- >>>>much of a problem for me to go to Maryland to have an abortion. Yes, it
- >>>>might make me wary about having sex -- then again, it might not make mu
- >>h
- >>>>of a difference. I know myself I would be extremely careful about using
- >>>>effective birth control, regardless of the availability of abortion. So
- >>
- >>>>sorry to disappoint you, Edward. Making abortion illegal would not make
- >>me
- >>>>have sex less, personally.
- >>>
- >>>
- >>>Alison
- >>>
- >>>These things actually can be determined by proper survey techniques.
- >>>Interviews on Oprah with pregnant teenagers were very revealing. Abortio
- >> is so
- >>>widely accepted in our society that many of the kids came up with lines
- >>uch as
- >>>'... and besides, I could always get an abortion....' to explain away th
- >>ir
- >>>cavalier attitudes towards the consequences of sex. Please don't misund
- >>rstand
- >>>me - a TV talk show doesn't prove a point - but neither do your particul
- >>r
- >>>personal reactions.
- >>>
- >>My personal reactions may mean nothing to you, Paul, but they mean
- >>something to me. I can't speak for others because I'm not a mind reader,
- >>but I can certainly tell a pro-lifer how I would feel if abortion was made
- >>unavailable to me, and how it would affect my life. *You* may not care if
- >>my personal goals are never achieved, but I sure care. I feel that my
- >>concerns are very legitimate, and you're a fool if you think you can
- >> convince me otherwise.
-
- >First off, I have to apologize. I went back over your original post and saw
- >you were responding to a claim Mr. Simmons made on how you personally would
- >react. Of course it would be presumptuous to make a judgement about an
-
- I would like to know what claim I made about how Ms. Colman would react?
- Did I in my original post even know who she was? Did I make ANY comments
- about how ANYBODY would react? I think not. I asked a simple question,
- that's it.
-
- [Stuff I'm not commenting on deleted]
-
- >>>
- >>Alison Colman
- >>
- >>
- >My point is this, Alison. If you feel abortion is acceptable, fine. I
- >disagree vehemently, but I won't put you down personally, or try to associate
- >you with one group or another to try to bolster my position. Abortion is bad,
- >not because it lets women off the hook, not because it is some left-wing plot.
- >For me its bad because it kills, period.
-
- >If some or even most pro-lifers are foaming at the mouth religious zeolots who
- >you might find repugnant, that doesn't automatically make their views on
- >abortion bad. These issues should be argued on their own merrits, not on the
- >particular group espousing them.
-
- >I'd be interested in what you find out about teenage pregnancy rates.
-
- >- Paul
-
-
- I will say it again. Ms. Colman has made some blatantly false accusations
- about me and I am expecting an apology.
-
-
-
- Edward Simmonds- standard disclaimers
-