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- From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
- Subject: Re: When will We See the Changes in the Stats...
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:04:12 GMT
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- dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- # regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- # > The incredible misogyny of deciding a person vs. a perhaps-we-aren't-sure-
- # > and-anyway-it's-harming-it's-host not-person in favor of the latter
- # > boggles the mind.
- # >
- # > The incredible mysogyny of reducing a woman to a breeding animal because of
- # > *your* *personal* values also boggles the mind.
- # >
- # > It isn't a simple either/or scenario. What abortion restriction entails is
- # > returning women to the status of chattel, and nothing less.
- #
- # Sheesh, and to think that *I* get accused of "cheap emotionalism"
- # because I use the term "child" instead of "fetus". Ms. Regard goes
- # whole hog here, using heavy emotionally-laden terms like "breeding
- # animal", "misogyny", "chattel", all the while ignoring the simple
- # fact that the vast majority of women in America do not support
- # unrestricted abortion-on-demand.
-
- Actually, Mr. Holtsinger, if you wanted to be honest, you'd write that
- a majority of Americans of *both* genders don't support unrestricted
- abortion on demand without apology.
-
- Furthermore, Mr. Holtsinger, if I were you, I would dismiss charges
- that I employ `cheap emotionalism' as trivial and concentrate on the
- much more damaging charges of `egregious lying and distortion.'
-
- # Are the women who oppose abortion
- # "misogynists", Ms. Regard?
-
- Are the *men* and women who oppose abortion `misogynists?' -- would be
- the appropriate question.
-
- # Do they think of themselves as
- # "breeding animals"? Surely you must have a better opinion of
- # American women than that.
-
- Some of us have grown to harbor a certain contempt for the majority
- opinion, Mr. Holtsinger -- there is no shame in that. A majority of
- Americans think miscegenation is immoral, and a truly shocking (but
- not quite a majority) proportion of them think it should be illegal.
- I have contempt for that majority opinion as well.
-
- Are the majority of American women who oppose miscegenation `racist?'
-
-
- --
- +---------------------------+ I wasn't expecting it. When Danny Elfman
- | J H Woodyatt | sang the words, `goo goo ga choo,' Sunday
- | bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | night, I cracked. Some horrors are too
- +---------------------------+ large to shade out.
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