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- From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- Subject: Re: sexist assumptions
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- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:15:31 GMT
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- margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >In <C1F7A5.D7A@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>>In <C1D6qo.8rv@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>>>peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>>>>beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>>>>
- >>>>>>peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>>>>>>beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >>>>>>>>Man A's condom breaks, woman has abortion, man A pays no child support.
- >>>>>>>>Man B's condom breaks, woman has child, man B pays $200,000.
- >>>>>
- >>>>>>Man A and man B have acted identically. But only man B can be "fined"
- >>>>>>(and indeed possibly imprisoned). Why the difference?
- >>>>>
- >>>>>Because man B has a child that he is obliged to support. Man A does not.
- >>>>
- >>>>You've restated the problem, not answered it.
- >>>
- >>>In case A there is no child.
- >>>In case B there is a child.
- >>>
- >>>If there is no child to support, there can be no child support.
- >>
- >>Okay, now suppose:
- >>
- >>Man C with woman E, condom breaks, E aborts; another woman C aborts.
- >>Man D with woman E, condom breaks, E aborts; another woman D has child.
- >>
- >>
- >>The law states that any man must support the child of a woman
- >>who shares his last name.
- >>
- >>Man C must not pay woman C; man D must pay woman D;
- >>the two men have acted identically.
- >>
- >>
- >>Your "answer" explains that this law is fair and just:
- >
- >No it doesn't.
- >
- >> If there is no child to support, there can be no child support.
- >
- >My answer explains why there is no child support owed in case A or in
- >case C. It says nothing about the fairness of the law.
-
- Okay, good soldier Schweik.
-
- Don
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