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- From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
- Subject: Re: Younger and younger
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:35:13 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.194212.16340@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- #From article by garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin):
- ## In article mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- ## #In article garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- ## ##In article rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker) writes:
- ## ###I read in todays Boston Globe (1/15/92) the story of an 8 (yes 8) year old
- ## ###Mexican female who birthed a health 7.04 point boy by Cesarian Section.
- ## ###This little factoid is one of the best arguments not only for abortion,
- ## ###but for sterilization.
- ## ##
- ## ##child survived the birth.
- ## ##
- ## ###Bob Kolker
- ## #Sounds to me like a good argument for education and stringent
- ## #prosecution of child abuse laws. I hope both the children survived the
- ## #birth and will live healthy happy lives.
- ##
- ## Well, as usual, the poster commented on the health of the infant
- ## but not on that of the mother.
- #
- #Sheesh. You have no way of knowing that.
-
- Well, yes, I do, Suzanne. I read what he posted.
-
- I have no idea why you butchered the context in this article -
- perhaps you were emulating Reverend Holtsinger.
-
- #Both were children. Since
- #the initial poster in this thread commented that the baby was a healthy
- #boy, it would be reasonable to assume this other person _was_ indeed
- #commenting on the health of the child-mother.
-
- Had you refrained from Holtsingerizing the article, you might
- have been able to figure out that I was referring to the
- initial poster (Kolker) in my comment. He commented only
- on the health of the infant.
-
- ## I hope the little girl is still
- ## capable of having children when she grows up.
- #
- #What could get in her way, but the mandatory sterilization folks?
-
- Having given birth at age 8 could certainly get in her way,
- Suzanne. I hope that you learn a little more about this
- subject before your daughter gets much older.
-
- ## I hope that the
- ## pope, who encourages the practice of denying children sex
- ## education and denying everyone access to birth control
- #
- #Oh for Pete's sake. This is the same pope under whose auspices millions
- #of mothers take their pubescent daughters to Natural Family Planning
- #intro courses presicely TO learn sex eduation - to learn all about their
- #bodies, where babies come from, self respect, and how not to have babies
- #if they don't wish to.
-
- In other words, this is the same pope who encourages women to
- use an ineffective method of birth control. I'm willing
- to change my statement to "denying everyone access to
- effective birth control."
-
- ## and abortion, is proud of the latest addition to his family.
- #
- #I for one welcome them to the human race, even if _you'd_ have wished
- #abortion on them.
-
- Unlike you, Suzanne, I believe that the little girl was a
- member of the human race before she gave birth. Unlike
- you, I am saddened by children having children. Unlike you,
- I would wish that all children were allowed to be children
- and to grow up without being abused.
-
- Susan
-
-