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- From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.072401.22786@netcom.com>
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- References: <1993Jan23.181412.6771@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1993Jan24.000916.20341@rotag.mi.org> <1993Jan24.055119.15266@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 07:24:01 GMT
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- mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes ...
- > kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >>>In order to have bodily autonomy, it is first necessary to be a
- >>>person.
- >>
- >>This is a ridiculous statement. All living organisms have varying degrees of
- >>bodily autonomy. Only some of those organisms have their bodily autonomy
- >>legally protected.
- >>
- >Since this is talk.abortion Kebbin, it should be self evident to any
- >thinking person that the bodily autonomy mentioned is specifically
- >that of a person, and legally protected. But if it'll make you happy,
- >here:
- >In order to have bodily autonomy, as it relates to legal protection
- >and the issue of abortion, it is first neecessary to be a person.
-
- Which leads to the inevitable question: what is it about birth that
- turns a fetus into a person?
-
- The legal argument isn't a useful one, as it can be argued that laws
- protect existing rights, and don't create rights.
-
- The biological arguments are not relevent to the personhood issue (or
- at least, haven't been shown to be). The the fetus is inside another
- person doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a person. As far as I've
- been able to tell, that alone it not enough to determine or prevent
- personhood.
-
- >Happy now Kibble?
- >My language may have been 'loose' Kebin, but at least I'll correct it.
- >Are you now ready to admit that you were incorrect in your usage of the
- >word 'schizophrenia' instead of 'mpd'? If not, you are simply
- >displaying your hypocrisy again.
-
- Is this in any way relevent? Or are you just resorting to a pointless
- ad hominem attack?
-
- --
- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
- ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietszsche
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