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  4. From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
  5. Subject: Re: So Forgach Supports Shutting Down Catholic masses
  6. Message-ID: <1993Jan23.021535.23365@s1.gov>
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  10. References: <C19po4.87y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jan22.211348.18894@s1.gov> <C1A4qp.E8z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
  11. Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:15:35 GMT
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  13.  
  14. In article <C1A4qp.E8z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Stephen A. Creps) writes:
  15. >In article <1993Jan22.211348.18894@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
  16. : : The pope, 
  17. : >...
  18. : :  continues
  19. : : to treat women of the church like second-class citizens.
  20. : 
  21. : >   How?
  22. : 
  23. :     By not allowing women to have the opportunity to have
  24. : leadership positions. Will a woman ever be a priest? Bishop?
  25. : Archbishop? Cardinal? Pope?
  26.  
  27. >   Could you please tell me what you know about the above positions,
  28. >then?  I'll give you a hint in that all are priests.  But please tell
  29. >us what you know about the nature of the priesthood.  Not some
  30. >sarcastic answer, but according to how the Catholic Church defines the
  31. >priesthood.  My guess is that you don't know anything about it.  Your
  32. >comment implying that the priesthood is merely a "leadership position"
  33. >seems to confirm that.
  34.  
  35.     The Catholic Church has a hierarchy. Priests give orders to
  36. laypeople. Bishops give orders to priests, archbishops to bishops,
  37. Cardinals to archbishops, and the Pope to Cardinals.
  38.  
  39.     What more is relevant? Or do you prefer male bosses to female
  40. ones?
  41.  
  42. >   Perhaps there is some reason, due to the nature of the priesthood,
  43. >that women cannot be priests.  And if you really know nothing about
  44. >the priesthood, then are you really qualified to comment on it?
  45.  
  46.     I am aware of rationalizations like that priests must be in
  47. the "image of Christ", though it seems to be OK to have priests who
  48. are not 30-year-old Palestinian Jews.
  49. -- 
  50. /Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
  51. /lip@s1.gov
  52.