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- From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: The Closing of the Margolis Mind, Part 3
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 22:33:28 GMT
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- nyikos@math.scarolina.edu writes:
- |margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- |>(Did you know that a guy named Reardon wrote a book, and he polled members of
- |>WEBA, and he found that 90% of them felt that they were Women Exploited By
- |>Abortion? And did you know that some people quote these figures as though
- |>they are representative of the general population? Really - I didn't make
- |>this up. There really are people this naive and foolish out there.)
-
- |Did you know that there is a person named Larry Margolis, who asked me
- |to mail him the foreword to _Aborted Women, Silent No More_ featuring
- |NancyJo Mann living a hellish existence for years because of a saline abortion,
- |and still posts crap like the above?
-
- So? You didn't get his point. The existence of one woman with
- a problem is NOT evidence that abortion causes such problems,
- nor is it evidence that abortion is likely to cause such
- problems in women. A sample of women self-identified as members
- of WEBA is NOT going to be respresentative of the general
- population. A sample of ONE woman (NancyJo Mann) is even LESS
- representative of the general population.
-
- Women here in t.a try to make this point to you by applying your
- reasoning to pregnancy. "We had bad experiences with
- pregnancy. We're WEEP-- Women Exploited by Excruciating
- Pregnancy," they say. "Therefore, Nyikos's reasoning leads us
- to conclude that pregnancy should be illegal." Do you think
- your abortion argument is valid when applied to pregnancy?
- Try the following:
-
- You can conclude nothing from the evidence of WEBA & NancyJo Mann.
- You need to look at studies done properly.
-
- The former Surgeon General of the US under Reagan, C. Everett
- Koop, concluded that the evidence didn't support the existence
- of "post- abortion trauma" or "syndrome". He came to this
- conclusion despite strong political pressure to find such a
- syndrome, and despite his personal opposition to abortion. He
- commented that if abortion is wrong, it's wrong because of what
- it does to the fetus, and not what it does to the woman.
-
- I commend his reasoning to you.
-
- ---
- cj@eno.esd.sgi.com C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
- "All sorts of people who don't know me and my many fine personal qualities
- say absolutely dreadful things about me. What can you do? Have them
- killed, of course, but that's *so* expensive." --Jon Carroll
-