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- From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
- Subject: Re: Life begins at ...
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:23:21 GMT
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- > = Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
- >> = kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
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- >>"Life" doesn't "begin", it continues and permutes.
- >>Your question is ill-posed.
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- >Life ends, though. Doesn't that imply a beginning as well?
-
- No.
- Something that is alive can die.
- Do you know of anything that is dead that can become alive?
- (except in a StarTrek-type scenario or perhaps a god-related miracle)
- EG: family trees can end, but they don't begin out of non-living matter.
- Note: I'm assuming you don't want to talk about the beginning
- of all life on earth, many moons ago.
-
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- > Or is this just another semantic argument?
-
- Presumably this is about more than semantics, but if you want to start
- a meaningful discussion, a more careful use of semantics will be required.
- That you asked this common ill-posed question in the first place suggests
- you don't know the confusion and/or nonsense that typically ensues.
- Perhaps you're musing about "personhood"? Or some fundamental change
- in the nature of some human life?
-
- -Brian
-