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- From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
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- Subject: Re: "perpetual" calendar
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- Date: 21 Jan 93 17:45:02 GMT
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- In article <ROOTS-L%93012107492279@VM1.NODAK.EDU> Tom Sundius U of Helsinki +358 0 1918339 <SUNDIUS@FINUH.BITNET> writes:
- >Tom Lincoln says that his program shows the transition from OldStyle
- >to Newstyle to happen in Finland on 12/31/1917, i.e. the same date as
- >for Russia. This must, however, be wrong, because Finland was a part of
- >Sweden when Sweden made the transition on 2/17/1753. Since the NewStyle was
- >introduced by the Swedish king already at that time, there was no reason
- >for the Russian emperor to introduce the Russian (Oldstyle) calendar in
- >Finland when Finland became part of Russia in 1809.
-
- Thank you for your comment. As noted, most of the transitions are taken
- from Facts on File... and one learns that these "facts" are sometimes
- wrong:
-
- 1.
- Title: The Book of calendars / Frank Parise, editor.
- New York : Facts on File, c1982.
- Description: 387 p. ; 24 cm.
-
- Notes: Includes index.
-
- Subjects: Calendars.
-
- Other entries: Parise, Frank.
-
- Call numbers: UCLA Reference CE 11 B66 1982 Reference Desk
-
- The net is a whole new way of critiquing this kind of information.
-
- >there was no reason
- >for the Russian emperor to introduce the Russian (Oldstyle) calendar in
- >Finland when Finland became part of Russia in 1809.
-
- That is good logic, but do you know it to be true? Governments love
- consistency, even if illogical... so they could have turned back the
- clock... but did they?
-
- Could you give us a reference?
-
- I also found on running the program that some of the older Easter dates
- did not agree with Facts on File... but I checked them with other
- algorithms and with other tables and found mine agreed with these
- alternative sources. Further, some of the questionable Easter dates in
- Facts on File turned out to fall on Wednesday.... nuf said
-
- There were other errors in the translation of Old and New Style.
-
- All of this proves how hard it is to get all of the idiosyncracies of
- the callendar right... and how hard such things are to proof read.
-
- SOmeone also asked:
-
- Where is the land of Oldstyle which will change from Julian to Gregorian
- on the first of January in the year Four Thousand?? :) :)
-
- my only plausible reply: Over by the land of Default..
-
- and we will see when we get there...
-
- Tom
-