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- From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- Subject: Re: Blatant Sexism (Re: adoption rules)
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:18:43 GMT
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- peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >
- >>>But what if she truly doesn't know -- and can't even guess? What
- >>>if she was raped and doesn't know who raped her? What if she only
- >>>knows his firstname (and it's something common like "john")?
- >
- >> "Don, are you in the habit of having sex with women when you know no more
- >> about them than their first name? ...
- >> I think that *most* men know considerably more than that. I also think
- >> that you are wasting alot of time and energy on a point that is not
- >> particularly important"
- >
- >> -- Michal Leah Peri, 15 Jan 93, <1j7bp5INN8b7@gap.caltech.edu>
- >
- >What of it? There's always a few bad apples. How would you deal with
- >the irrepsonsible ones?
-
- "I claim that it is very easy for him to avoid such a surprize by being
- responsible in his sexual behavior. You seem to believe that such
- responsibility is a hardship on men -- a most uncharitable view of
- your gender, IMO."
-
- -- Michal Leah Peri, 15 Jan 93, <1j7bp5INN8b7@gap.caltech.edu>
-
-
-
- >And how would you deal with rape victims? (you might call these the
- >"unfortunate ones")
-
- Your hard-line view against men whose condom failed or who were
- deceived with malice aforethought into becoming a parent does not
- seem to apply to women who don't know the name of the men they sleep
- with or who were raped.
-
- Isn't rape a horrible violation of personal integrity and control
- over one's life, as well as a horrible physical violation?
-
-
- By the way, to answer your insulting question, I am not in the
- habit of having sex with women whose last names I don't know.
-
- But that is completely irrelevant, Michal, isn't it? After all,
- would you accept an abortion law that said a woman can't have an
- abortion if she didn't know the name of the men she slept with?
-
- You seem to believe that such a responsibility is a hardship on women
- -- a most uncharitable view of your gender, IMO.
-
- Don
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