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- From: chuckies@cs.mcgill.ca (Charles J Savoie)
- Newsgroups: soc.men
- Subject: Re: Drunk Sex = Rape?
- Message-ID: <C1H72L.JtC@cs.mcgill.ca>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 19:20:44 GMT
- References: <16B5EA76A.ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> <C1BpFC.A35@cs.mcgill.ca> <16B6184D5.ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU>
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- In article <16B6184D5.ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU> ALI00BAW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
- >In article <C1BpFC.A35@cs.mcgill.ca>
- >chuckies@cs.mcgill.ca (Charles J Savoie) writes:
-
- >>Do you think he should be LEGALLY guilty of anything? Why should he be
- >>punished, what did he do wrong? If he was drunk himself, why is he more
- >>guilty than she?
- >>
-
- >I didn't say that a man who takes advantage of a woman's diminished capacity
- >was in the same catagory as one who used force or fear. Indeed, I specifically
- >said that to consider the two in the same class was unjust.
-
- Fine. I wouldn't put people who copy music tapes for friends with serial
- killers, either. And copying tapes is illegal, even...
-
- >HOEWVER, the first
- >man HAS acted less than honourably in taking advantage of the woman's lessened
- >capacity, and to have NOTHING happen to him would also be unjust.
-
- This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Cheating at
- Monopoly is less than honourable, but you don't give people criminal
- records for it. I think you need to get things in perspective.
-
- >It would
- >not even REALLY be needful for the courts to become involved; if, once his
- >behaviour became known nobody would have anything to do with him for a while
- >it might be punishment enough.
-
- WHAT HAS HE DONE THAT SHOULD BE PUNISHED ?
-
- Lots of people do things that are "less than honourable". They don't
- necessarily get thrown in jail, which is what you seem to want.
-
- You also, typically, do not address:
-
- - What if he is drunk himself, and they both agree to have sex.
-
- This *does* *not* belong in talk.rape, since this situation IS NOT RAPE.
-
- Charles
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