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- From: Bob.Clarke%bbs@actcnews.res.utc.com (Bob Clarke)
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:47:41 EDT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.074741.28201@actcnews.res.utc.com>
- Organization: United Technologies Research Center
- Subject: Re: Sexual Discrimination
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- In message <1993Jan26.232704.27278@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
- dated Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:27:04 GMT
- noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:
-
- > In article <qy4ZXB1w165w@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca> lisa@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca writes
- :
- > >noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:
- > >
- > >> In article <1993Jan26.035102.3766@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicag
- o.e
- > >> >In article <1993Jan26.011724.27341@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> noraa@cbnewsk.cb.a
- tt.
- > >>
- > >Deletions...
- > >
- > >> Ted, one question....
- > >>
- > >> Given that women are awarded either sole custody or primary custody
- > >> (usually something like a 75/25 split) in roughly 85% of all divorces
- > >> in this country in which the divorcing couple are parents of children
- > >> under age eighteen, despite laws in virtually every state that
- > >> emphatically set forth that judges should NOT be biased by gender in
- > >> awarding said custody of children, are the judges and referees of the
- > >> domestic relations courts of the United States of America guilty of
- > >> sexual discrimination?
- > >>
- > >> Aaron L. Hoffmeyer
- > >
- > >Just one question; Does anyone have real stats on how often men ask for
- > >sole or primary custody, in comparison to how often they are actually
- > >awarded it?
- > >
- > >For example, if men ask for some kind of custody in only 30% of all divorce
- > >cases, how many of *that* 30% are awarded sole or primary custody?
- > >
- > >I don't doubt that in many, or even perhaps most cases, there is a judicial
- > >sexual bias against men in custody battles. I'd just like to see the stats
- > >(comparisons) for this. If anyone has them, please cite these stats and you
- r
- > >reference sources.
- >
- >
- > Men are dissuaded from pursuing custody, even joint custody, both by
- > court officials and their own attorneys. Attorneys are not willing to
- > fight for something they cannot deliver. Most men do NOT have the
- > money to pay for an expensive court battle to merely achieve what they
- > should be awarded by default. For a comprehensive analysis of the
- > reality of the custody situation, based on one of the most thorough
- > studies ever conducted on this topic (which discusses this phenomenon),
- > see
- >
- > "Dividing the Child: Social & Legal Dilemmas of Custody"
- > by Mnookin and Maccoby
- >
- > ISBN: 0-674-21294-0
- > Harvard Press
- >
- > Aaron L. Hoffmeyer
- > TR@CBNEA.ATT.COM
-
- This is truth! My lawyer has told me unless my ex2b is a drug abuser or a
- child beater there is no chance of custody. In addition he said I should go
- elsewhere for a lawyer if I want to pursue a custody battle.
-
- A basic divorce should cost about $1500.00 to $3500.00. The sky is the
- limit for a custody battle.
-
- One comment though, the disscusion seems to centering on gender basis,
- however I have been told that the court considers itself to be the adovcate
- for the child, and will do what is best for the child, or at least what it
- believes to be the best. Both parents maybe capable of raising the child,
- but which one is best? Being capable may not be enough. We maybe faced
- with a more subtle distinction here then simple gender basis.
-
- It was my post that started this thread, "Child Custody to Father?" about a
- week ago. I must admit I am pleased with the quality of the thread, and I
- will look for the book you referenced, I am going to need hard/published
- facts.
-
- Bob Clarke
-
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