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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Privacy -- and responsibility
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.014155.2643@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1jfln7INNehp@gap.caltech.edu> <1993Jan19.043142.25117@rotag.mi.org> <1jkh05INNegv@gap.caltech.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:41:55 GMT
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- In article <1jkh05INNegv@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1jfln7INNehp@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>>The assumption that a child has a right to be supported by both its parents.
- >>>Is that sexist?
- >
- >>Yes! Compared to the results obtained by regular application of (fault-based)
- >>legal liability principles, the statutes bestow a windfall on women, and exact
- >>a corresponding penalty from men. Sexism, pure and simple.
- >
- >The statutes are intended to support children, not bestow a windfall on women.
- >Perhaps they are failing in their intent.
-
- In many cases (at least in Michigan), the laws we're talking about were passed
- before abortion became safe and legal. At the time these laws were passed,
- their intent was benign and non-sexist. It is the fact that the laws have
- REMAINED for the most part intact, even as society's attitudes and behavior
- wrt reproduction has been transformed around them, that raises strong
- suspicions of a sexist bias against men.
-
- >Or perhaps it is the execution of
- >the statutes that has failed. I tend to think it is the latter. Perhaps
- >implementing better accounting of the current system (each set of parents
- >pays for own children, where possible) would improve things. Several
- >proposals for such accounting are under discussion in soc.men.
-
- That's just mollification. In the absence of any unusual negligence, fraud or
- coercion on his part, a man in the hypothetical scenario we've been discussing
- shouldn't be paying child support AT ALL. Better accounting of child support
- is just crumbs from Massa's table. Emancipation is the RIGHT solution.
-
- >I prefer to
- >try to fix the current ssystem rather than adopting a more socialistic
- >system.
-
- How is making EACH person INDIVIDUALLY responsible for their OWN decisions,
- and *ONLY* their own decisions, a "socialist system"? Do you even know what
- the term means? Or is it just an insulting incantation you use when you can't
- think of anything else to say?
-
- - Kevin
-