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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Privacy -- and responsibility
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.041424.3709@netcom.com>
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- References: <1jkid2INNf6l@gap.caltech.edu> <C1BppA.CG0@cs.psu.edu> <1jsta5INNktb@gap.caltech.edu>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:14:24 GMT
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- In article <1jsta5INNktb@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
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- >>peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
- >>>x73rl@ll.mit.edu ( Rick LaFave) writes:
- >>>
- >>>>I've said in the past that there is an inconsistancy between saying that he
- >>>>has no rights as far as the z/e/f is concerned and demanding he support the
- >>>>resulting child. If support is demanded, then he must have some rights
- >>>>associated with the z/e/f, if he has no such rights, then support should
- >>>>not be mandated.
- >>>
- >>>I agree that the situation is not a good one. However I find the
- >>>alternatives worse. Either (1) men get control over prengnacy and abortion,
- >>>thereby women lose bodily autonomy. Or (2) children go unsupported by
- >>>one or more of their parents, thereby either living in poverty or becoming
- >>>a burden on society at large (or both).
- >
- >>does "free choice" really mean "choice without cost," to you?
- >
- >No. Woman are liable for 1/2 the cost and 1/2 the effort of parenting.
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- Not from what I have heard. If man can afford if, she can get $15K/month,
- for child support, on top of alimony. In CA, the state monitors the guys
- salary, and decides what her fair share is. I will have to ask Arlen if he
- finds out when he opens the paycheck envelope.
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- Simply put, by my observations of reality, your claim is wrong.
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- > -- Michal
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- >Impressive amounts of material can be accreted in this manner.
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- Rich
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