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- From: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
- Newsgroups: soc.men,alt.abortion.inequity,alt.feminism
- Subject: Thought experiment
- Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:06:03 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- Chris.Holt@newcastle.ac.uk (Chris Holt) writes:
-
- >Imagine an alternative universe in
- >which the positions of men and women were identical w.r.t. the
- >production of a child (clearly we can't get there from here, but
- >it's an interesting thought experiment). That is, there would be
- >no more burden on women than there is right now on men. The question
- >is whether such a society would make abortion illegal altogether,
- >whether it would allow either parent the decision of whether
- >to abort, or whether it would require joint consent.
-
- Let's constrain this a bit: assume that women didn't exist and
- that 2 men could conceive a child by mixing their sperm in a petri
- dish and then sending it to a Fetal Processing Laboratory (FPL).
- No pain involved. Nothing occurs within either partner's body
- (post-conception). Any two people (the "parents") can conceive.
- To keep things simple, assume that the output of the FPL lab would
- be a self-sufficient person who would not require monetary support.
-
- >If abortion would be illegal, then financial burdens would be
- >considered an insufficient basis for choosing abortion. If joint
- >consent were required for an abortion, then in the case of disagreement
- >it is possible to argue that the parent wanting the child should
- >shoulder a greater share of the childcare/financial burden. If
- >either parent could cause the abortion, then it would be assumed
- >that both parents wanted the child, and the burden would be shared
- >equitably (possibly with time/money tradeoffs).
-
- >I would tend towards the belief that such a society would make
- >abortion illegal, at least if it had ethics comparable to those
- >of our industrialized world, because it is so controversial at
- >present, and many of those who support abortion do so only because
- >of the burden placed on women. This would suggest that financial
- >burdens are not considered sufficient reason; which removes the
- >force behind the movement for men to have (formal) input into the
- >abortion decision.
-
- What about the rest of you out there? Care to offer an opinion?
-
- Would both parent's consent be required by the FPL? Or would the
- consent of one person suffice?
-
- If the consent of one parent were held to be sufficient, would that
- one person be held solely responsible for the FPL bill?
-
- Would the second person,if he initially consented, be able to get out
- of paying his share of the FPL bill by changing his mind after the
- petri dish was mailed to the FPL? Would he owe anything to the other
- parent?
-
- What if it was possible to retreive the package? Would that change his
- liability for half the FPL bill? Would he be liable for the postage
- fee? half the postage fee?
-
- What if one parent changed his mind after the lab had begun the
- processing? Would this be allowed? What, if any, responsibilities
- would befall each parent in this situation?
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- -- Michal
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