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- From: dietz@parody.Data-IO.COM (Kent Dietz)
- Subject: Re: Non-Smoking Restaurants/Bars
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.181823.7655@data-io.com>
- Sender: news@data-io.com (The News)
- Organization: Data I/O Corporation
- References: <klg.728001231@bass>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:18:23 GMT
- Lines: 51
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- In article <klg.728001231@bass>, klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross) writes:
- |>
- |> I decided to compile a list of non-smoking restaurants and bars. I know
- |> that most places have a non-smoking section, but IMHO this merely pays
- |> lip-service to the reality that smoke knows no boundries.
-
- I saw a quote in yesterday's Times that I think sums up my thoughts about
- "non-smoking" areas:
-
- "Would you put in a urinating area in your swimming pool?"
-
- then of course there is the famous Steve Martin:
-
- Smoker:"Do you mind if I smoke?"
- Martin:"Do you mind if I fart?"
-
- |>
- |> If you know of a restaurant or bar that does not allow smoking on the
- |> premises, I would like to know the name and location of that business.
- |> I'll send the compiled list to whomever would like a copy, but I'll send
- |> it quicker if you give me some info first ;-).
-
- The same article said that there are many no smoking restaurants in the
- state (700 comes to mind) -- there were also several anti-smoking groups
- mentioned in the article. They probably have exhaustive lists of no
- smoking public venues.
-
- NEW THREAD:
-
- When the secondary smoke reports came out, I immediately started wondering
- what the anti-smoking lobbies would do with the reports. If a parent or
- other adult causes a child to suffer asthma attacks by smoking, is that
- considered child abuse? I contend that using whipping as discipline is not
- nearly as damaging to a child as smoking in an enclosed area. I understand
- that some state legislator is proposing that it be illegal to smoke in a car
- with a child under the age 16. The legislator admits that the law will be
- very difficult to enforce, but the educational value of the law may save some
- childs life. How far can government go on this issue. Can they tell people
- that they cannot smoke in their own homes if children are present? Seems like
- a serious breach of personal freedom, but then again, the children are not
- exactly being allowed to practice freedom of choice, are they? Opinions?
-
- I personally am against the state legislating such controls, but must admit
- that I know people who wear seat belts now, simply because the state says they
- must. Will parents stop smoking, at least in the presence of their children,
- simply because the government puts the secondary smoke reports into law? Is
- legislation a reasonable way to educate the populace?
-
- Puzzled in Redmond,
-
- Kent Dietz
-