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- From: roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (John Roberts)
- Subject: Re: Next unmanned missions to Venus
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- -From: roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (John Roberts)
- -Subject: Re: Next unmanned missions to Venus
- -Date: 25 Jan 93 03:35:22 GMT
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- --From: rkornilo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff)
- --Subject: Re: Next unmanned missions to Venus *
- --Date: 24 Jan 93 06:39:04 GMT
- --Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
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- --Hmmm, well, I guess if we were to make any kind of serious exploration of
- --Venus's surface we would have to develop electronics componants that
- --operate comforably at 900f. And metals that can protect the inards of the
- --probe from terrential sulfuric acid down-poors..
- --How WOULD we do that by the way? Anyone know??
-
- -Read the October 1992 Scientific American. If they pan out, diamond film
- -semiconductors should be able to operate at up to 700 C (as compared to
- -than silicon semiconductors.
-
- Change that last paragraph to read:
- "Read the October 1992 Scientific American. If they pan out, diamond film
- semiconductors should be able to operate at up to 700 C (as compared to ~450 C
- at the surface of Venus), and should be smaller than and operate 40-100 times
- as fast as silicon semiconductors."
-
- Other measures that I've proposed in previous years:
- # Nuclear reactor (or RTG, as recently proposed by Kevin Plaxco), driving
- a heat engine, which powers a refrigerator.
-
- # Tethered balloon, with temperature differential between the ground and
- the balloon driving a heat engine. This has the advantage of not needing
- an imported energy source. I haven't looked at the numbers lately, but
- I *think* the temperature differential is great enough that you might
- be able to get useful power from a tether on the order of 10 km high.
- The high density of the atmosphere would be useful, if the tether is of
- fairly low density. Wind speeds are reported to be very low near the
- surface, and very high in the upper atmosphere. I don't have a velocity
- profile that could be used to calculate wind speeds 10-30 km up.
-
- What to fill the balloon with to make it buoyant is an interesting
- question. If the fabric is non-flammable, oxygen extracted from the CO2
- atmosphere is a possibility. (The fabric would have to be totally resistant
- to further oxidation.) If the heat flow is great enough, it might be
- used to lift a hot-CO2 balloon.
-
- John Roberts
- roberts@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov
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