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- From: brahm@cco.caltech.edu (David E. Brahm)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Black hole insights
- Date: 24 Jan 1993 07:06:04 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- Summary: Coordinate time to reach the horizon depends on coordinates
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- bbowen@megatest.com (Bruce Bowen) writes re: an uncharged, non-rotating
- black hole,
- > The coordinate time for an infalling infinitesimal testpoint to reach
- > the horizon is infinite. The proper time is finite.
-
- I've been trying to get this straight too, so someone let me know if I'm
- mistaken, but I think your first statement is only true in some coordinate
- systems (e.g. Schwarzschild coordinates), not in others (e.g. ingoing
- Eddington-Finkelstein coordinates). See MTW pp. 828-829, 872-875.
-
- What I want to know is, when people calculate how much "time" it takes for
- a black hole to evaporate (proportional to M^3 they say), what coordinate
- are they talking about? I'm still confused by the fact that a test
- particle takes infinite Schwartzschild "t" to pass the horizon, but the
- hole evaporates in finite "t", and I'm not convinced that the "bulging"
- effect people have mentioned is the answer. Perhaps I'm just being
- irresponsible using Schwarzschild coordinates when M is changing.
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