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- From: kilston@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
- Subject: Consciousness: orthogonal or universal
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- Organization: Lockheed Palo Alto Research Labs
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 02:05:45 GMT
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- Dear fellow angels on this pinhead:
-
- How amazing it was to find someone else's excellent idea distorted
- by a respondent and then have the distortion embraced by the idea's
- own originator! I thought I really liked Chandrasekaran's original
- statement that having goals (or desires) and knowledge (or beliefs)
- is orthogonal to being conscious. My experience tells me that the
- most intense consciousness -- a direct connection with the world of
- the present sensations and feelings, not the past or future -- must
- be wordless, and that prevents inclusion of beliefs and most goals.
-
- Talking to researcher friends who specialize in strokes and other
- neurological losses of consciousness, I have concluded that we can
- only be conscious OF SOMETHING, not reside in some absolute
- isolated mental "state of consciousness". What's in your
- consciousness is simply what you feel is IMPORTANT (worth paying
- attention to) at that particular time.
-
- Computers may someday be intelligent, and even conscious, when,
- given a complex context, they can answer the question: WHAT IS
- IMPORTANT? Being able to establish priorities is essential for
- survival (a key test of intelligence). And being able to focus
- attention on what's important is essential for consciousness.
- There may be be about seven levels of consciousness, each revealed
- by the responses of the organisms in question:
-
- 1. Consciousness of spatial gradients (e.g., temperature, acidity,
- gravity; bacteria and plants have this, and respond by moving)
- 2. Consciousness of things changing through time (e.g., flies can see
- a hand coming and avoid it, a crude form of memory and prediction)
- 3. Consciousness of "others," of things persisting through time (e.g.,
- dogs can remember for a long time who beat them, and maybe attack)
- 4. Consciousness of self (some chimpanzees seem to know what
- they should look like in a mirror, and show surprise if painted)
- 5. Consciousness of being conscious (Descartes thought this was
- useful; talking about consciousness is a giveaway here)
- 6. Consciousness of being able to change one's consciousness (this
- doesn't occur often in most people, but meditation is one way)
- 7. Consciousness of the unity of consciousness in our universe (a
- real tough one, but great wisdom and peace-of-mind could result)
-
- Yours sincerely,
- Steven Kilston (semi-learned astronomer)
- Lockheed Research Labs
- Palo Alto
- kilston@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
-