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- From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke)
- Subject: Re: Searle on animal consciousness
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.174733.3100@cs.ucf.edu>
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- Organization: University of Central Florida
- References: <1k1mj7INN8cu@shelley.u.washington.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47:33 GMT
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- In article <1k1mj7INN8cu@shelley.u.washington.edu>
- forbis@stein.u.washington.edu (Gary Forbis) writes:
- > In article <1k0r1tINN5fn@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu>
- chandra@cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
- > >Would you say that a patient under anesthesia is in pain, he just
- > >doesn't feel it? I think that would be an odd use of the term.
- >
- > I think that if the anesthetic prevents signals from entering the brain then
- > no pain is felt but am less willing to claim a general anesthetic blocks pain
- > when it might be the case that it merely blocks the ability to report pain.
-
- The drug scopolamine is often given to women in labor since it
- doesn't really make them unconscious so they can cooperate at
- least a bit: "push" and all that. The benefit is that the women
- don't remember the experience/pain afterward.
-
- I can't speak from experience (my wife had "natural" with a touch
- of demerol), but I understand that women under scopolamine are
- quite verbal, cursing the men who did this to them etc. etc.
-
- Corollary question. If you don't remember, in what sense
- are you conscious?
-
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- Thomas Clarke
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