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- From: Dan Sorenson <viking@iastate.edu>
- Subject: Re: triremes
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:41:18 GMT
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- From Dan Sorenson <viking@iastate.edu>
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- mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers) writes:
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- >Does anyone know if ancient warships (triremes and the like approx
- >300bc-300ad) sailed the open sea, or just crept along the coastline?
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- >I know merchant ships of this period had the capability of sailing
- >from Rome to Alexandria in favorable winds, but I would have thought
- >that this kind of trip would be impossible or unbelieveably
- >foolhardy for a fleet of triremes.
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- They tried this and were often successful. They also tended
- to lose a lot of ships even in coastal waters. I'd imagine they had
- gotten better at it by the time they reached Britain, but in the
- period you describe the general tendency was to use the triremes
- as glorified taxi's for the soldiers. Ben Hur wasn't too factual
- in this regard. They did travel about the Med well enough, but the
- Romans never did seem to become adept seamen.
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- >Another fact I have in the puzzle is that Rome lost 2 seperate fleets
- >during the Punic wars just sailing from Siciliy to Carthage, so I would
- >guess this would be about the longest open sea voyage that ancient
- >naval commanders would attempt. But Im guessing.
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- Rome wasn't known for learning from its mistakes. Were that
- the case, they would have quit trying to beat up their neighbors,
- and losing, long before Rome became a military power. Note also
- that such defeats were at the hand of the sea, not the enemy, so
- the Roman generals had little reason to quit the practice since
- Poseiden or whoever was obviously displeased at one of the sailors
- and it wasn't Rome doing something rather silly. At least, that's
- how I suspect a general would think in that period.
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