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- From: platt@watson.ibm.com (Daniel E. Platt)
- Subject: Re: Vectors Question
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:58:42 GMT
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- In article <93025.223136A54SI@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <A54SI@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
- |> I'm reading Principles of Electrodynamics by Schwartz. In it he discusses
- |> two types of vectors, polar (where the components negate under pure
- |> reflective transformation) and axial (where the components are invariant
- |> for pure reflective transformations).
- |>
- |> Either my thinking is wrong or he contradicts himself :
- |>
- |> Let us set c = a cross b. In my mind, if a and b are both polar or they are
- |> both axial then c is axial. I do this by picturing reflections performed on
- |> the vectors, and I am fairly certain of this result. If we try to cross two
- |> vectors of different types, then the c vectors before and after the
- |> reflection (c and c') differ in magnitude as well as direction and so
- |> I feel that it's impossible to cross different type vectors. Be that as it
- |> it may you won't get a polar vector by crossing a polar with and axial
- |> (Unless my mental pictures are totally wrong.)
- |>
- |> From Coulomb's law he gets that force is a polar vector. Fine.
- |>
- |> Now from magnetism we know that force F = qv cross B. Velocity v is polar.
- |> He's already assumed that charge q is scalar (totally invariant). From all
- |> this he thinks this tells us that B is axial!
-
- Jackson calls polar vectors 'vectors' and axial vectors 'pseudovectors.' He
- identifies location, velocity, momentum, force, electric field, etc as vectors
- (polar), and angular momentum and magnetic field as pseudovectors (axial).
-
- You should not think of the transformation as a reflection about some plane.
- It is a transformation x -> x' = -x for all components. For functions of
- location, it goes like B -> B'(x, t) = +B(-x, t), E -> E'(x, t) = -E(-x, t).
-
- Cross products of even with even and odd with odd are even (Angular momentum
- is axial), while odd with even are odd (polar). F = v X B with F and v odd
- implies B must be even.
-
- Dan
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