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- From: fc03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Frederick W. Chapman)
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: why is pi irrational
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.175840.80386@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 17:58:40 GMT
- Organization: Lehigh University
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- In article <pete.03vb@bignode.equinox.gen.nz>,
- pete@bignode.equinox.gen.nz (Pete Moore) writes:
- >Frederick W. Chapman (fc03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu) wrote:
- >
- >>Actually, the Biblical passage merely describes a circular shaped
- >>pool, saying that it was 30 cubits around and 10 cubits across (if
- >>memory serves me). This is a far cry from saying that "pi = 3", for
- >>the following reasons. [...]
- >
- >The relevant passage is 1 Kings 7 v 23, if anyone cares.
- >
- >The `King James' Bible says:
- >
- >"...ten cubits from one brim to the other: it was round all about...and a
- >line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."
- >
- >and the `Revised Standard Version' varies only in saying "from brim to
- >brim" and "a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference."
- >
- >I don't think there is any doubt that it is describing a circle.
-
- Yes, it describes a man-made circular object, but not an ideal,
- mathematically perfect circle. A man-made circular object only resembles a
- perfect circle to within some tolerance, which is unspecified in this case.
- My point is that without knowledge of the tolerance to which the object was
- constructed to resemble the ideal, and without knowledge of the precision
- and claimed accuracy of the measurements, we have no grounds for complaint.
-
- All measurements are approximate and all man-made objects are imperfect.
- So the Bible contains what I presume to be a perfect report of the
- approximate measurements of an imperfect object. No contradiction there!
- If I write a report accurately describing someone else's sub-standard lab
- work and/or sub-standard craftsmanship, that does not make *me* responsible
- for the errors; if I accurately report what someone else did, I have done
- my job.
-
- Quite frankly, I think it is silly to expect any piece of literature to
- follow modern-day standards of laboratory practice when dealing with
- quantitative information. The measurements were included in the Biblical
- passage TO HELP THE READER IMAGINE THE SIZE OF THE POOL; both diameter and
- circumference were included AS AN AID TO CONVEYING THIS MENTAL PICTURE TO
- THE READER, not as part of a science experiment to empirically determine an
- approximation of pi. Let's not confuse literature with experimental
- science!
-
-
- >When it says the Earth is flat, however, it is inaccurate, rather than
- >imprecise.
-
- Where does the Bible say that? (Response via e-mail would be more
- appropriate.)
-
-
- Fred Chapman
- sci.math.religion.regular
- :-)>>> <--- long beard, symbolizing patriarchy
-
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