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- From: mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni)
- Newsgroups: sci.lang
- Subject: Re: "n'ha" == "daughter of" ? Language?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.190927.19692@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 23 Jan 93 00:09:26 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan22.190927.19692
- References: <1993Jan14.222532.5043@memstvx1.memst.edu> <1993Jan18.002137.6847@trl.oz.au> <1993Jan19.232437.5103@memstvx1.memst.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan19.232437.5103@memstvx1.memst.edu> connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
- >In article <1993Jan18.002137.6847@trl.oz.au>, jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes:
- >> connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
- >>
- >>
- >>>Well, whatever n'ha is, it isn't Romance....
- [deletion]
-
- >>
- >> No, it isn't Breton. In Breton c'h is a single letter (just like
- >> ch, dd, ff etc in Welsh) that represents a velar fricative (i.e.
- >> = Welsh ch).
- >
- [Much deletion]
-
- I'm sorry, I didn't see the origin of this thread, but I suspect all you
- real linguists (by comparison, this is my first semester as a Ling. major)
- are barking up the wrong tree.
-
- Any science fiction fans out there?
-
- You see, Name n'ha Mother's-name is the form of address used in a science
- fiction series I know and love. If you knew this and are speculating whether
- it was taken from a real language, I apologize for wasting bandwidth.
- If you didn't, read on.
-
- It's the Darkover series by Marion Zimmer Bradley. The women, known as
- Renunciates or Free Amazons, took an oath that gave them relative freedom
- in the extremely patriarchal society the novels are set in. They used,
- for example, Claudia n'ha Charlotte (that'd be me! -- not that I go by it) to
- avoid taking a man's name. This *was* fiction only, until (female) fans
- of Bradley's novels started to adopt this convention. The author has been
- asked by women, at science fiction conventions, to take their oaths (lifted
- direct from the novels) so that the women feel they are true Renunciates
- as in the novels. Some legally change their names, so this is indeed what
- you might find on someone's birth certificate, but the word "n'ha" was
- invented, by Ms. Bradley.
-
- The language she invented does resemble some real languages, but does not, so
- far as I know, come from any particular language. Nor did she give elaborate
- glossaries, a la Tolkien.
-
- Hope this helps,
-
- Claudia Mastroianni
-