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- From: strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
- Subject: Re: Cars and suburbs
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- In <C1HBDo.6sB@rice.edu> shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
-
- >In article <kraas.727971827@gmd.de> strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
- >hits the nail on the head:
-
- >>... Judging from German traffic statistics, most cars
- >>are used under conditions which seem to be ideal for bicycle use,
- >>most of the time. This may be different in the US.
-
- >Actually, it is not. Over half of workers in the USA live within 6
- >miles/10 km of their jobs. A very easy bicycle commute.
-
- Well, it depends. I have to ride about 12 km from my home to work,
- if I take the shortest available route. Unfortunately, German
- law imposes the bicylist to use a bike path (bikeway? I'm not
- sure about the terminology here), if there is one along (i.e.
- parallel to) the street. In practice, this means that one has
- to cross the street often, because such bike paths aren't
- continous, but start, switch side or end quite often and randomly,
- and that one has to pay attention to much more traffic lights
- than a car driver who uses the same route would have to.
-
- In addition, many bike paths are former sidewalks, so one
- has to pay attention to slow pedestrians, which makes it
- quite impossible to ride at a decent speed.
-
- This stop & go way of riding not only costs time, it costs
- a lot of power, too. And it's quite dangerous.
-
- There is a German joke that "Radweg" (== bike way, bike path),
- the official term for a bike path which has to be used, really
- should be written as "Rad weg!", i.e. "Bike, get out
- of here!".
-
- Anyway, even under such bad circumstances it is possible
- to ride with an average speed of about 18 km/h, end to end.
-
- The average speed of cars in our cities is less, if one
- takes the time wasted in traffic jams and the time necessary
- to find a parking lot, plus the time to walk from the
- parking lot to the real destination into account.
-
- >Your German statistics also probably includes info on avg dist/trip.
-
- Sure. There is a German book
- Heiner Monheim / Rita Monheim-Dandorfer
- Strassen fuer alle (Streets For Everybody)
- Analysen und Konzepte zum Stadtverkehr der Zukunft
- (Analyses and conceptions for future city traffic and transportation)
- Rasch und Roehring, Hamburg, 1990
- ISBN 3-89136-368-0
- which contains a lot of thoughts and statistical material about
- traffic and urban planning. The chapter about "means of transport and
- distance" contains a statistic which relates distance to percentage of
- the choosen means of transport. It says that for distances between 500m
- and 1km, the car is used in 24 % of the trips, and that for 1km - 2km,
- the car is used in 40 % of the trips. This corresponds to my own
- - of course limited - observations: about two third of the parents
- use the car to take their children to our kindergarten, for example.
-
- Most of them live, like us, in a distance of between 500m and 1km
- to the kindergarten. My two childs used their own bikes to go to
- the kindergarten since the age of four, AND THEY WHERE FASTER, most
- of the time, for the same distance.
-
- --
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