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- From: alanm@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Alan McGowen)
- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:13:29 GMT
- Subject: Re: Constructive Posts and Bells of Hope
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- / hpindda:sci.environment / alanm@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Alan McGowen) / 10:58 am Jan 18, 1993 /
- >In these days of the Bells of Hope and calls for Reunion, I'd like to try
- >something which flopped for lack of participants the last time I suggested
- >it -- a "constructive posts" campaign.
-
- A couple of emailers have asked me to "structure" this proposal a bit.
-
- In my view, the first approximation to the structure of the topics for
- discussion here ought to be Agenda-21, the major result of last year's
- Earth Summit in Rio.
-
- That is, any topic which was given a chapter in Agenda-21 and recognized
- by the international community as a part of the interlocking network of
- problems we face ought to be a legitimate topic for discussion in
- sci.environment. That includes such "nontraditional" (for us) areas as
- the status of women, as well as obvious areas like biodiversity and
- climate.
-
- In addition, some areas which many NGOs have complained received short
- shrift -- e.g. population, biocentric or ecocentric ethics -- to name a
- few -- are also legitimate subjects. [Those areas are discussed in many
- of the NGO treaties of the broader Earth Summit.]
-
- Now some will argue that much of this has no business in a sci.* group
- -- that the only topics we should ever entertain here are topics which
- can be dealt with via a few sums on the back of an envelope.
-
- My view is that the *environment* and our *impact* on it is the topic here,
- and the sci.* appellation of the group is a challenge to us to bring to bear
- whatever scientific knowledge we have on all questions which pertain to that
- topic, to the best of our ability -- it is not primarily a limitation of
- scope.
-
- Again, I'd like to point out that the de novo construction of frameworks
- for discussion about the environment is a complete waste of time when the
- planet has already adopted one. That framework is Agenda-21, and if we
- want our cogitations to impinge on the implementable at any point, that
- should be our basic initial framework for discussion here.
-
- And, yes, I'm afraid the bad news is that this *does* mean that all of us
- ought to read it, or at least *aspire* to read it among everything else on
- the reading list.... [No, I haven't read all of it. About half.]
-
- A much less ambitious but still very worthy goal would be to pick just
- *one* chapter -- your favorite subject -- and read only that one.
-
- If you can't *find* a favorite subject anywhere in Agenda-21, the three
- UNCED treaties (climate, biodiversity, deforestation) or in the NGO
- treaties (the documents from the broader participation of the Earth Summit,
- outside the UN delegations), I'd think there was a serious question as
- to why you are here in sci.environment, or even *.environment.
-
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- Alan McGowen
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