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- From: amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Anmar Caves)
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- Subject: Re: Why not 120 VDC ? Why invert?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 19:45:43 GMT
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- In article <1k68g7INN2ei@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >In article <C1IpIq.DFF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Anmar Caves) writes:
- >>>If you use a 12 volt system you can start out with one set of batteries
- >=>and add capacity in parallel. If you are on 120 volts dc you have 10
- >=>times the number of cells. The initial cost for a 120 volt system will be
- >=>much higher.
- >=
- >=In addition, there will be ten times the number of cells in series.
- >
- >But the same total number of cells in your storage system.
-
- Yep. But, you can get away with mixing different aged banks in
- parallel. It's not the best for a system, but it isn't too
- detrimental. Replacing one cell in a series system *can* be
- detrimental and can lead to reverse charging and increased sulfation
- if lead acid cells. It's best that all cells in a series system be
- the same type, capacity and age. It's not absolutley ruinous to
- replace one cell (or one battery if using 6 or 12volt batteries to
- make up the 120 volt battery, hmm, a battery of batteries?) in a
- 120volt battery, but it is more so than replacing once battery in a 10
- 12volt battery system.
-
- >=Any one cell failure can ruin a bank.
- >
- >The same is true if the cells are connected in parallel: One shorted cell can
- >load the rest enough to damage them.
-
- I wasn't talking about a shorted cell. In a bank of 60 cells
- connected in series a shorted cell would hardly be noticed. The
- charge/discharge voltage fluctuation is much higher than that (like
- around 10 volts). In a bank of 60 series-parallel cells working at 12
- volts it could blow up the cell (more likely it wouldn't happen
- because most shorts would get burned away before they became serious).
- But shorted cells in a lead acid bank for that type of application
- rarely happen unless you drop your wrench on them (shame on you! why
- didn't you insulate all exposed leads!). On that I speak from
- experience.
- With lead acid banks in stand by or home use configuration the most
- common failure mode is sulfation. I generally try to avoid this by
- dropping the acid content on the cells to about 1.2 sp. grav. fully
- charged.
-
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