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- From: np4@prism.gatech.EDU (Nick Pomponio)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: RADAR, RADAR ECM, and RADAR ECCM
- Message-ID: <81992@hydra.gatech.EDU>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 04:21:51 GMT
- References: <Jan.20.12.40.11.1993.25528@trident.usacs.rutgers.edu> <107823@bu.edu> <careyj.727992636@spot.Colorado.EDU> <1993Jan26.124059.5230@wkuvx1.bitnet>
- Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
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- Before I get started, let me state that my interest in this discussion is
- purely in generic radar jamming techniques such as those used in military
- applications and not in defeating police radar...
-
- In <1993Jan26.124059.5230@wkuvx1.bitnet> scottcr@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
-
- >O.K. how are we gonna do this? A linear transponder with (30 hz /mph
- >upconverter?); Problems with in/out isolation.
-
- A straight repeater would probably suffice, unless the radar has leading
- edge tracking. Depending on the radar, a "passive" electro-mechanical
- method can be viable.
-
- > Maybe since we really
- >don't need a truckload of transmit signal (the radar unit is seeing
- >1 / (it's signal * 4PI * dist to car^2 * refl coef * dist back^2)
- >so if we retransmit say +10 dBm into a horn with 10 db gain that
- >should cover it.
-
- In general, the ratio of jammer signal power to radar return signal
- power varies as the inverse square of the range to the radar. Thus, the
- power requirements must take into account the ranges over which the
- jammer needs to operate, as well as the other factors you mention.
-
- >A balanced modulator would have to be used for mixing as the signals
- >would be too close in frequency to filter; but the image being present
- >may give us trouble too (does the radar care if it's "coming or going?".
- >I am going to guess that
- >two horns facing forward spaced say two feet apart are going to have
- >about 40+ dB isolation, so this limits the throughput gain (again since
- >the freqs are too tight to filter), What about polarization?
-
- For a narrow-band system (where the frequencies of interest are concentrated
- in a very narrow band), isolation problems can sometimes be solved by "tuning"
- the antenna installation. In fact, an RF circulator used with a single
- antenna would probably provide ample isolation.
-
- As far as polarization, it depends on what you had in mind. One idea
- is to use a single, dual polarized antenna in place of two antennas;
- unfortunately, I believe that the port-to-port isolation is less than
- 40 dB. Another issue is polarization jamming. That is an involved
- subject in it's own right.
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- POMPONIO,NICHOLAS A
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