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- From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
- Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.171715.2813@island.COM>
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- References: <C1F01w.HG4@newcastle.ac.uk> <rdavis.728008225@connie.de.convex.com> <1993Jan26.120132.21873@cas.org>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:17:15 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.120132.21873@cas.org> jac54@cas.org () writes:
- >In article <rdavis.728008225@connie.de.convex.com> rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis) writes:
- >>Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth) writes:
- >>
- >
- > This argument ignores local variations in standards of
- > living in the U.S. I have visited California several
- > times and the standard of living in the urban areas is
- > very high. I also lived in Iowa for some time and the
- > standard of living was abyssmal in comparison to anywhere
- > else I have lived. The quality of produce was poor and the
- > selection limited. The cultural life of the area was moribund,
- > we had to drive 45 miles to the nearest decent library.
- > Columbus is a big improvement on Des Moines but still a
- > long way behind urban areas of Europe that I have lived in.
-
- > As far as quality is concerned, I think you have that mixed up.
- > My impression of American consumer goods is that quality is not
- > that great and it is frequently sacrificed to keep prices low
- > while adding "features" that have no use. Quality of U.S.
- > products can be very good, but the range of quality is far
- > greater than one could get away with in Europe. Did you
- ^^^^^^^
- > ever wonder why European products have been making so much
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > headway in the U.S.? Helpful hint: they're not cheaper.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- In many cases, they appear to to be cheaper here than in Europe, however.
-
- reposted from rec.motorcycles.
-
- The K75 (bare K75) is a loss leader. The K75S is not; you pay over $2,000
- for the fairing, which is the only difference between the two.
-
- Some more prices:
-
- model german price in US$ us price %diff
- R100R 13,950 DM $9,486 $8,240 15%
- R100GS 15,350 DM $10,438 $7,790 34%
- R100RT 18,500 DM $12,580 $9,340 35%
- K1100LT 23,500 DM $15,980 $14,890 7%
- K1 26,950 DM $18,326 $14,290 28%
- K75 14,700 DM $10,300 $6,590 56%
- K75S 17,300 DM $11,764 $9,290 27%
-
- Prices in France;
-
- Brand model new 1992 1991 1990 1989
- BMW
- 750K75 $9,964 $7,679 $6,607 $5,893 $5,357
- 750K75RT $11,893 $9,643 $8,750 N/A N/A
- 1000R100GS $10,393 $8,036 $6,964 $6,071 $5,357
- 1000R100RT $11,000 $8,750 $7,679 $6,964 $6,250
- 1000K1ABS $16,393 $12,143 $10,536 $9,464 N/A
- 1000K100LT N/A N/A $9,464 $8,214 $7,679
- 1100K1100LT $14,714 $12,679 N/A N/A N/A
-
- Ducati
- 750SS Half fairing $9,696 $7,143 $6,607 N/A N/A
- 750SS Full fairing $10,232 $7,500 N/A N/A N/A
- 900SS Half fairing $12,071 $9,643 N/A N/A N/A
- 900SS Full fairing $12,313 $9,821 N/A N/A N/A
- 900SS Superlight $13,804 $10,893 N/A N/A N/A
-
-
- All the prices are considerably higher in Europe than in the US. Nice of the
- Europeans to subsidize our life-style. The Ducs seem especially high for the
- smaller models.
-
- > Ah yes, the wonderful Colby Longhorn cheese for example,
- > chanterelles and edible boletes are available on every
- > street corner in the U.S. Spare parts for my De Vilbiss
- > airbrushes are unobtainable over here, try finding Humbrol
- > paints without having to offer up the first-born male child.
- > Going back to food, the U.S. offers some of the worst sausage
- > it has ever been my dubious privilege to taste. Oscar Meyer
- > would cause riots in the streets in Poland, never mind Germany.
-
- I think the Polish and Germans have found other reasons to riot in the past
- few years.
-
- In any event, I doubt one would go to a butcher shop to buy those Oscar Meyer
- products. Those are pre-packaged items. The sausages sold at the butcher shops
- in our area seem to satisfy the large number of European immigrants that we
- seem to be getting in our area (particularly Russian, Polish, French, and
- German) of San Francisco.
- Mike
- --
- Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
- one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
- deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
- conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
-