home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: sci.chem
- Path: sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!rtech!pacbell.com!ames!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!utcsri!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca!mroussel
- From: mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel)
- Subject: Re: Published values of bond energies
- Message-ID: <1993Jan28.014925.19049@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
- Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Toronto
- References: <1993Jan27.190213.27488@cs.sfu.ca>
- Distribution: sci.chem
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:49:25 GMT
- Lines: 36
-
- In article <1993Jan27.190213.27488@cs.sfu.ca> jones@cs.sfu.ca (John Jones)
- writes:
- >I've been checking the values given for the energies of some common
- >chemical bonds in various textbooks, and have been surprised to find wide
- >variations in the values given. For example, take the C-C, C=C and
- >C[triple bond]C energies; I found the following values (in kJ/mol)
- >
- [Table showing a 10-20% variances in textbook-reported bond energies deleted.]
- >
- >What is the cause of these discrepancies?
-
- Bond energies vary a lot from molecule to molecule. The figures
- shown in typical textbook tables are averages over several different
- kinds of molecules containing a certain "type" of bond. I put the word
- "type" in quotation marks in the previous sentence because, for
- instance, the C-C bond in an aldehyde is quite a different thing than
- that in a normal hydrocarbon. As you can imagine, the average value you
- arrive at will depend crucially on your sample.
-
- >Suppose I actually needed to know the bond energies for some practical
- >purpose, how would I come up with a reliable figure?
-
- If you really needed an estimate of a bond energy, your best
- strategy would be to try to find a more detailed table and to use a bond
- energy from a closely related molecule. For a small example of what I
- mean, look at the table on p. 1064 of Kemp and Vellaccio's Organic
- Chemistry. There are better bond energy tables around, but I don't
- happen to have such a thing in my personal library.
- Usually, it's best to try to avoid using bond energies. They are
- sometimes useful for ballpark arguments, but usually standard
- thermodynamics tables can be made to yield the same information and
- because the latter tables are almost always more comprehensive, it's
- easier to gauge the variability of reaction energies from them.
-
- Marc R. Roussel
- mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
-