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- From: mccomt@aix.rpi.edu (Todd Michel McComb)
- Subject: Re: Jared Diamond's _The Third Chimpanzee_
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- References: <C0ysr1.6wu@brunel.ac.uk> <727251658snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> <1993Jan22.003839.9572@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:20:24 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.003839.9572@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Lowell Staveland writes:
- >previously Gil Hardwick writes:
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- >You flame because your words are pointedly inflammatory, instead of
- >factually refuting.
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- That is your opinion. Gil has presented facts of his experience.
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- >>This *IS* the specialist forum sci.anthropology, and in that context
- >>I don't know that science asks "why" anything at all. Why is the moon,
- >>for heavens sake? It just is, isn't it?.
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- >If science simply said it just is, then there would be no need for
- >science, because there would be no question. Why searches for root
- >causes. How examines the process between cause and effect. You statement
- >is ludicrous from an empirical perspective.
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- How about the question 'what happens?' Answers to that in various
- circumstances might actually be interesting -- even central to anthropology.
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- What makes you think there are 'root causes?'
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- Why do I think this is one of the most absurd concepts in science? Why do
- I suspect that a 'process' is hoked up nonsense to make people feel important?
- Why do I believe that an empiricist can describe experience without asking
- 'why?' Why, in fact, would a strict empiricist care anything about why
- anything?
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- There are relationships among things. There are complex links of connection
- which circle upon themselves and within themselves. There are incredible
- subtleties of shade and form. But there are no root causes and there is
- no why -- other than the universal.
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- >These last two paragraphs are not worth commenting on. However, i suggest
- >you rethink your emphasis on accepting the world at face value.
-
- I note that you do comment on them. I also suggest you rethink your emphasis
- on not accepting the world at face value, or at least defending the abstraction
- inherent in causality on empirical grounds. Or would that interfere with that
- nice government funding?
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- T. M. McComb
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