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- From: aewhelan@icaen.uiowa.edu (Andrew Whelan)
- Subject: Re: Controlling Airship Lift
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:52:49 GMT
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- In article <kkobayas.727919759@husc.harvard.edu> kkobayas@husc8.harvard.edu (Ken Kobayashi) writes:
- >kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu (Michael F. Kamprath) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1993Jan21.074446.15421@nuscc.nus.sg> Perry Morrison,
- >>swkmorri@nuscc.nus.sg writes:
- >>>Some time back I posted a query about dirigible/blimp control surfaces.
- >>>Now I have another query- could a helium filled airship control its
- >>>lift by having some internal heat delivering device such as an electric
- >>>radiator.
- >>>
- >>>I'm aware hot air balloons generate lift by heating the enevelope with
- >>>LPG flame. Could sufficient expansion be delivered by an electric/non
- >>>combustion method?
- >>>
- >>>cheers
- >>>Perry Morrison
- >>>
- >
- >>Lift is not a good choice of words to describe why hot air/helium balloons and
- >>dirigibles "fly" -- try buoyancy.
- >
- >>Anyways, yes they can, but an electric heater would weigh temendous amount.
- >>It would probably weigh less just to bring more helium along for the ride.
- >
- >
- > And thtow away expensive helium when you want to go down? I think the
- >point of the original poster is that if heaters are used the dirigible can
- >go up or down without loss of helium. But if electric heaters are too
- >heavy, how about gas burners, like the ones used on hot-air balloons?
- >Those should be light enough, and it shouldn't be too hard to construct a
- >safe heat-exchange system...
-
- Hang on a sec! As Kamprath wrote, the important part here is the bouyancy.
- Blimps, like the Goodyear bunch, keep a constant (or nearly so) amount of
- helium in the envelope and regulate the volume of the heluim to regulate
- the lift. By pumping more air into pockets in the envelope, the pockets
- expand, compress the heluim, and lower the bouyancy.
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-
- ______________________________
- / | | \ ______
- / | | \/ \
- / Air | | Air \ |
- / | | \_____/
- \_________/ Helium \__________ / \
- \ / |
- \ /\______/
- \______________________________/
- | |
- |______|
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- If you have seen the Goodyear blimps on the ground, there are two
- chain-saw sized motors that hang near the gondola and appear to
- start randomly. These motors regulate the helium/air ratios.
-
- Back (way back) to Morrison's original question: could heaters be used
- to expand the heluim? Yes, but since a source of energy would be needed
- to maintain altitude, it would be less practical than regulating the
- helium/air ratios.
- --
- ________________________________________________________________________
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- andrew whelan
- aewhelan@icaen.uiowa.edu
- university of iowa, idaho city, ohio
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