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- From: kkobayas@husc8.harvard.edu (Ken Kobayashi)
- Newsgroups: sci.aeronautics
- Subject: Re: Controlling Airship Lift
- Message-ID: <kkobayas.727919759@husc.harvard.edu>
- Date: 24 Jan 93 23:55:59 GMT
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- References: <1993Jan21.074446.15421@nuscc.nus.sg> <1jscmuINN5o9@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
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- kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu (Michael F. Kamprath) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan21.074446.15421@nuscc.nus.sg> Perry Morrison,
- >swkmorri@nuscc.nus.sg writes:
- >>Some time back I posted a query about dirigible/blimp control surfaces.
- >>Now I have another query- could a helium filled airship control its
- >>lift by having some internal heat delivering device such as an electric
- >>radiator.
- >>
- >>I'm aware hot air balloons generate lift by heating the enevelope with
- >>LPG flame. Could sufficient expansion be delivered by an electric/non
- >>combustion method?
- >>
- >>cheers
- >>Perry Morrison
- >>
-
- >Lift is not a good choice of words to describe why hot air/helium balloons and
- >dirigibles "fly" -- try buoyancy.
-
- >Anyways, yes they can, but an electric heater would weigh temendous amount.
- >It would probably weigh less just to bring more helium along for the ride.
-
-
- And thtow away expensive helium when you want to go down? I think the
- point of the original poster is that if heaters are used the dirigible can
- go up or down without loss of helium. But if electric heaters are too
- heavy, how about gas burners, like the ones used on hot-air balloons?
- Those should be light enough, and it shouldn't be too hard to construct a
- safe heat-exchange system...
- I also heard of a design that uses a hydrogen-filled gas-bag nested
- inside a helium gas chamber. Buoyancy is controlled by inflating (from a
- tank?) or deflating (releasing into atmosphere) the hydrogen. No helium
- is lost, and since the hydrogen is surrounded by helium it's not as
- dangerous as the Zeppelin. I don't think it's ever been actually used though.
-