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- From: jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Wall)
- Subject: Re: Sound Direction Indicators
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.163125.26433@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:31:25 GMT
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- In article <C16puC.Jz5@news.cs.andrews.edu> maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier) writes:
- >In article <1jk3eqINNhh6@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> dodd@OES.ORST.EDU (Stirling S. Dodd) writes:
- >>I figured it was a simple memory error (my little bro calls em brain farts).
- >>
- >>It does present an interesting idea. Since the speed is only 5 or so times
- >>as fast, the wavelength would be scaled likewise. Since it is the shortness
- >>of the wavelength with respect to the ear to ear distance that destroys our
- >>perception of directivity, it seems that our ears would only require about
- >>5 times the separation. I don't have time to calculate the directivty
- >>of this dipole reciever with a big obstrction in the way (your head) but,
- >>consider this:
- >>
- >>My ear to ear gap is about 10 inches, or .254 m. So 5 * this is about 1.25 m.
- >>I'm 6'4" (~2 m) so if I took an earphone, connected it to a microphone, say
- >>near my knee, I might have enough separation to distinguish the direction!
- >>
- >>I haven't tried this, but it sure seems plausible.
- >
- >Karen Pryor, Dolphin Trainer at Sea Life Park, from her 1973 book _Lads
- >before the Wind_
- >
- >Sound travels five times faster in water than in air. To compensate for
- >this, Wayne made a pair of human pinnae out of steel and plastic, five
- >times bigger and five times farther apart than our ears on our heads.
- >These had hydrophones lowered into them and were lowered into the water
- >while Gregory and his students, inside the Essex, listened through the
- >Ears via earphones. I have heard physicists pish-tush this arrangement,
- >but in truth, Gregory felt that it gave him quite a bit of directional
- >hearing, with practice, and he discovered, among other things, that
- >sometimes what sounds like one porpoise whistle to us is actually made
- >by two or more animals.............
-
- The human auditory system uses two methods to localize sound. The time
- difference in the sound striking the ears and an intensity difference due
- to the head. The head provides a shadowing effect for small wavelength or
- high frequency sounds. The low frequency sounds are localized by the time
- difference. The question that would need to be answered is would the head
- have to be enlarged five times or no?? There are lots of factors that go
- into sound localization. Which is why I wanted to make the poiont that
- sound localization under water is not a learnable skill. However it would
- be interesting to develop a system to hel a human localize sound underwater
-
- Cheers,
-
- Jeff Wall
- wall@hel4.brl.mil
- >
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