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- From: fkittred@spchp13.BBN.COM (Fletcher Kittredge)
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- Subject: Re: Why are Kenyans so fast (rebutal)
- Date: 23 Jan 93 20:09:13
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- In-reply-to: Thomas.C.Pinckney@williams.edu's message of 23 Jan 1993 22:08:33 GMT
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- In article <1jsfl1INNfhj@savoy.cc.williams.edu> Thomas.C.Pinckney@williams.edu writes:
-
- > The following is my understanding -- please correct me if I am
- >wrong:
- Most Africans, including virtually all West Africans are Bantu
- >peoples. Kalenjins, the tribal group to which Chelimo, Rono, Boit,
- >Keino, Kiptanui, et al belong, is Bantu, and thus they are (distantly)
- >related to the Bantu people of West Africa (and thus to most American
- >blacks). The Luo and Turkana, to which Ondieki and Ereng belong,
- >respectively, are not Bantu, and thus the Kalenjins are, if anything,
- >more closely related to the West Africans than Ondieki and Ereng.
-
- >Waiting for corrections . . .
-
- Happy to oblige. I think this is complete hogwash:
-
- 1) The designation "Bantu", "Nilotic", etc. is most accurate when
- applied to language groups, not genetic types. By this reasoning
- because an Asian-American speaks English they must be genetically
- close to Germans because English is a germanic language ;-) Or,
- to be more germaine, one wouldn't want to identify everyone whom
- spoke Swahili as Swahili would one?
-
- 2) Anyone whom is unaware of the considerable interbreeding of
- different tribal groups in Kenya must be equally unaware of East
- African history. Somehow I suspect this is the case for Runner's
- World ;-). Because westerner's detailed knowledge of these
- people's is recent, we tend to see them as static groups. This
- is far from the case, it is an enormously dynamic region with much
- cultural and physical movement and cross-pollenation.
-
- 3) The genetic argument for athletic performance is old, but quite weak.
- At this point there is an enormous body of evidence which suggests that
- athletic performance has no racial component. I would point out
- that the genetic variation between individuals in one of these groups is
- statistically as great as the variation between individuals of different
- groups.
-
- 4) Their argument is inherently racist.It is racist because we wouldn't even
- be having this discussion if the athletes involved were not African.
- If the Germans had won a bunch of marathons in a row, we wouldn't
- be talking about how the Germans are genetically superior runners
- to the French, we would be talking about how good the German's training
- program was. Yet there is an equal genetic distance between the
- French and the Germans as between the East Africans and West Africans.
-
- In my estimation, the fundamental reason the Kenyans are good runners
- is economic. Back me up. You mentioned you had been to Kenya. Think
- for a moment what it would do to a Kenyan's life to win a western
- marathon with the associated prize money. Think about the other life
- paths open to a Kenyan or Tanzanian. Is it any wonder the most
- dedicated and talented of them is willing to train so hard? And yes,
- I think altitude, running surface and good coaching make a difference
- as well. I know that the weeks I spent about 10,000 feet on Mount
- Kenya changed my physiology forever.
-
- Kwahari,
- fletcher
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