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- From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
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- Subject: Re: 1/2, 1/3, boy girl the answer to life & everything
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 03:48:42 GMT
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- In article <C1J1GE.5wy@news.rich.bnr.ca>
- bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes:
-
- > >From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen)
- >
- > Everything stated is corect, until this:
- > > A coin is tossed twice. You are told that *at least* one of the tosses
- > > produced heads. What is the probabilty that THE SECOND (and *not* the
- > > first!) toss produced heads to make both tosses heads. In this case,
- > > the permutations of HT and TH are distinhuished and different. the
- > > answer now is 1/3. People read the original question and see the above
- > > one, because it's easy to make this mistake.
- >
- > What is the prob. that the 2nd toss is heads and not the first, making
- > both tosses
- > heads? Zero! If the first toss is not heads, then they can't be both heads!
- > I think you want to re-state this.
- > I think this is what you mean:
- >
- > A coin is tossed twice. You know that *at least* one of the tosses is heads.
- > What is the prob. that the second toss is heads? Ans = 2/3.
- > What is the prob. that they are both heads? Ans = 1/3.
- >
- >
- >
- > The main point with the sibling/coin problem is whether or not the the
- > probabilities are independent or not. If you say "One is x, what is the
- > prob. that the other is also x?", then the probabilities are independent and
- > the fact that "One is x" doesn't change anything. If you say "At least
- > one is x
- > (out of two), what is the prob. that number 2 is x?" links the prob.s because
- > if the first is not-x, then the second _must_ be x, so the answer is different.
- >
- > Does this sound reasonable? (I got nailed for missing this on the
- > first pass :)
- >
- > Brian /-|-\
-
- But what would the answer be if Monty Hall asked the question?
-
- :-)
-
-
- --Ted Schuerzinger
- email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
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- was 'Russian Vodka'."
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