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- From: JTCHEW@lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
- Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
- Subject: Re: WANTED: Women's self-defense success stories!
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- Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:53:15 GMT
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- David Jewell posts and Jay Toman ripostes:
-
- DJ>> A woman I know, in her mid 20s, visited the US from Australia. She had
-
- DJ>> 6 months Tae Kwon Do (traditional) training and was walking along one
- of
- DJ>> the well known shopping streets in L.A. when she was approached by a
- man
- DJ>> who tried to bum some money off her. She gave him a few dollars from
- her
- DJ>> purse and proceeded to walk on towards her car. The man was not happy
- with
- DJ>> the amount he had received and pressed her for more and then started
- to
- DJ>> verbally abuse her. He positioned himself between her and the car and
- at
- DJ>> this time she felt very threatened by him physically.
-
- JT> I'm not sure how this is a "success" story. He didn't assault her, she
- JT> assaulted him. You can't beat on somebody just because they annoy you,
- JT> or scare you. The situation you describe just doesn't sound like it
- warrants
- JT> the use of (potentially deadly) force.
-
- Well, that's *always* up to the DA and then maybe a jury to decide. But I
- am hard-pressed to think of a woman who wouldn't consider that scenario
- to be an attack. Maybe just a case of obnoxiously aggressive panhandling,
- but maybe a lead-in to a mugging, a carjacking, or a beating-up. There is
- a small but disturbing intersection between the set of street beggars
- (most of whom are guilty of nothing more than being homeless and hungry)
- and the sets of street criminals and dangerous addicts/crazy
- people/whatnot.
-
- Certainly there were less escalatory ways in which she could have handled
- this. But a woman (i.e., live prey on the street) who has had six months
- of TKD (not much) probably saw this situation in a much more threatening
- light than most of us might have.
-
- Joe
- "Just another Monday-morning quarterback from the People's Republic of
- Berkeley"
-