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- From: J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer)
- Subject: German Pointers - go for it!
- Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
- Date: 26 Jan 93 08:45:27 CST
- Approved: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.084527.25677@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- Subject: Re: German Short-haired Pointers
- References: <1993Jan21.105211.20615@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
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- robert_walton@NeXT.COM (Robert Walton) writes:
-
- [about German Shorthaired Pointers]
-
- >My wife and I are looking
- >for a dog (not now but soon) that is smart,
- ^^^^^^ yes
- good natured,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes
-
- good with kids,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes
-
- >clean,
- ^^^^^^ depends how & where the are worked :-)
-
- doesn't shed,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ah, you need a bald dog then :-), *every* dog sheds
-
- good in the house,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes
-
- >and (for me) will also be a good upland hunting dog.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yes
-
- >for the type of hunting I do. I went pheasant hunting with a friend and his
- >black lab once, and it worked out O.K., but the dog is hardly an ideal
- >upland dog.
-
- I've had a number of GSPs. They meet your criteria above, but can be
- bettered. The short coats mean they can't handle really cold weather as
- well as their cousins the German Wirehaired Pointer. They are also
- reluctant to take cold water and are not keen on taking cover (ie
- brambles). Some GSPs will, but mostly they're softer than the GWPs.
- They also have a lot less drive and are more biddible. (Take that to
- mean that they are more controllable and less stubbnorn/determined, but
- give up quicker and sometimes refuse to do as they are bid.) On the
- other hand, the thick coat of the GWP is a disadvantage on a grouse
- moor in August. It all depends (firstly) on the kind of land and
- weather in which the dog is to work, and then on temperament. The GSP
- is the easier of the two to handle, but the GWP is the better breed.
- (All IMO, of course.)
-
- >Thoughts on (or better yet experience with) the German Pointers? How do
- >they do on the above criteria? Yellow labs? Other breeds? Advice
- >appreciated.
-
- Forget the labradors, save them for the driven pheasant shoot or for
- the foreshore. A GSP is every bit as good at retrieving as a lab, and
- has some GO in it, as well. Other breeds that fulfill the same role as
- the GSP (ie Hunter Pointer Retriever - HPR) include the Hungarian Vizla
- (a wee bit smaller than the GSP and more biddible, just as capable),
- the Weimaraner (larger than the GSP, dogs tend to go through a loutish
- teenage period), the Brittany (spanial sized HPRs, very strong headed
- and take a knowledgeable and firm hand to control), the Munsterlanders
- (Large M. is an airhead, Small M. is superb - a "ladies dog"), and
- several others.
-
- Get some books on the breeds, and preferably see some working before you
- choose your breed. Once you've decided on breed, only buy from working
- stock. And don't rush: buy in haste, repent at leisure.
-
- --Jonathan
-
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