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- From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: home protection concerns
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.071954.11497@chpc.org>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 01:04:27 GMT
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- Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
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- In article <JANECZKO.93Jan20222918@csd630a.erim.org> janeczko@csd630a.erim.org (Mike Janeczko) writes:
- #around the house for protection. He said definetly use factory loads. His
- #reason was that if by chance you end up killing a perp. with a handloaded
- #cartridge, the prosecuting lawyer might portray you using excessive force.
- #His reasoning might be that necessary force could have been carried out
- #with factory load (i.e. non-maximum loads). This also got me thinking about
- #the caliber of the gun also being considered as excessive force? Has there
- #been any cases involving this?
-
- A local IPSC shooter I compete with was recently tried on three counts of
- assault with a deadly weapon in Rhode Island (he was found innocent on all
- counts - he drew on some houebreaking juveniles who attacked him - the
- prosecutor chose to use them as wittnesses rather than defendants and
- the defendant refused to "play ball" and plead out to disturbing the
- peace/disorderly conduct or some such nonsense).
-
- Among the issues raised at trial :
- - Why did you carry such a powerful gun (it was a 45)
- - How many people have you killed? (he is a Viet. Vet.)
-
- Also -
-
- No matter how good you are at reloading, you're not going to match
- the process control and monitoring of a "real" ammo factory (note
- that I am excluding "private label small volume" ammo like MagSafe
- where you merely buy someone else's reloading service).
- #
- #Another point my father made that I guess makes sense is that when loading a
- #clip (doesn't apply in my case, at least not yet :-) you should
- #"fingerprint-proof" your bullets. This can be done by loading the clip with a
- #glove on or use a towel when loading. This gives one less piece of evidence
- #tieing you to the gun. It may not help, but why give the prosecutor any kind
- #of edge.
-
- It gives the prosecutor an "edge" only if you intend on covering up your
- actions. (I'll not repeat the advice about deciet in the aftermath
- since everyojne else will cover that).
-
- If I am even so unfortuante enuf to be involved in a shooting, I'll want
- as much forensic evidence as possible to document what happened, as I
- will deal with the situation by telling the truth in the presence of the
- attorney who will be draining my life savings to represent my interests.
- I personally would be more concerned with being UNABLE to prove that
- my statements properly represent reality than with covering up reality.
-
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- #
- #Does anyone else have any other tips? Or comments on what I stated?
- #
- #
-
- Find someone else to get self protection advice from; he's batting
- .500.
-
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- #Michael Janeczko | Environmental Research Institute of Michigan
- #Research Scientist | P.O. Box 134001
- #internets: | Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001
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- rob b.
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