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- From: callison@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: [RELOAD] Reloading summary
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- Date: 22 Jan 93 04:02:42 GMT
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- Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
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- OK, here's the summary on handloading I promised...
-
- First of all, I got a mailbox flooded with great responses. Thanks, guys!
- It really helped me a lot. Especially Henry Schaffer's articles on
- beginning handloading, which he kindly forwarded to me. I'd recommend
- putting them (or a condensed version) in the FAQ. I tried to respond to
- everyone who sent me something directly, but there are some flaky links
- in OKC and Nebraska which occasionaly dump responses into cyber-heaven...
-
- The basic consensus was to go with an inexpensive single-stage press,
- carbide dies, and caution. OK, one out of three ain't bad. ;-)
- Auto priming systems were also overwhelmingly suggested, as well as a
- powder scoop (as opposed to a scale for a cheap beginning with lower-power
- loads) and a good sturdy bench. (I have a big, heavy steel desk to clamp
- the press to.)
- All agreed that the first thing to do was to buy a reloading manual; I
- chose the Hornady manual, and am looking for the Lyman manual. The manual
- you choose will have an effect on the supplies you choose--namely, the
- powder and bullets you buy. (Maybe not for a veteran loader, but definitely
- for a beginner; that's why I chose 240gr. SWC and Winchester 231--Hornady
- has loads for that combo.)
- I was going to follow the majority opinion and buy a single-stage press,
- but, for the price of an RCBS RockChucker+.44Mag/Spl carbide dies, I
- got the Lee Progressive 1000 with built-in primer feeder, Deluxe Auto-Disk
- Powder Measure, case feeder, and .44Mag/Spl carbide die set. It seemed
- like a very good deal ($170 total, including a bag of 500 240gr. SWC
- bullets, 1lb Winchester 231, 100 Winchester Large Pistol Primers, and
- 100 rounds of .44Magnum...and OK sales tax), so I went progressive over
- single-stage. As one respondant put it, it's a question of whether you
- buy the progressive loader now, or wait until you _really_ need it.
- (Well, his way was more eloquent, but it's on another system :-(
-
- I'm mostly into reloading for the economy of it; for $.05/bullet, $.10/case,
- and a few cents/load of powder, I'm easily cutting my ammo expenditures
- in half. (UMC .44Mag runs $15-$17/box of 50; PMC (either factory, or
- reloaded to factory specs) 240gr TCSP .44Mag runs $30/bag of 100; that
- leaves a cost of ~$0.30/round.)
- I may not see such savings in 9mm, as it's dirt-cheap locally, but I have
- a rather large supply of cases--I started collecting my cases long before
- I bought my reloading equipment, because I was thinking about possibly
- doing it. I would recommend that any shooter pick up his/her brass--not
- just because you reload (or will reload), but because of common courtesy.
- (Unclaimed brass belongs to the range owner by tradition, but your brass
- is yours; treat it as such.) The ranges I go to have a broom and dustpan
- back in a corner; they're useful for sweeping out the loose brass the bozoid
- before you left--it makes it much easier to reclaim your brass.
-
- I haven't actually had a chance to start loading yet, but I have run a few
- cases through, just to see how it works. For .44Mag, the setup was the
- tricky part. My setup came set for .44Spl, but the Lee dies for .44Spl
- work for .44Mag; all you have to do is set them for .44Spl and back the
- flaring and crimping dies out 2 turns. Of course, those two turns can be
- tricky to do accurately :-).
-
- I also ran two or three cases through to test the seating/crimping die.
- My first round came out with the bullet sitting on top of the shell just
- like it hadn't gone through the thing. My second round came through with
- just a teensy little bit of the nose sticking above the case rim ;-).
- That reminded me to spend $9 more to buy a kinetic bullet puller--a very
- useful little gadget. ;-)
-
- I like the Lee Pro1000 very much, so far. As far as caliber changeability,
- it's fairly simple; you buy a kit, which includes the shell carrier plate
- and primer feeder, and you buy a set of dies. It costs about $50 all told,
- so I'm not sure that it's a real bargain, but it seems like a relatively
- simple operation. And, since the disk that holds the dies is removable,
- it's possible to get one for each caliber, so you don't have to readjust
- your dies every time you change caliber.
-
- I think that about covers my beginning in reloading...with luck, I can soon
- provide an update...
-
- James
-
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