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- From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
- Subject: Re: Honda perfection management
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:06:46 GMT
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- surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:
-
- |>The Hondas have a good reliability record as far as break down on
- |>the road, I don't doubt that. The point of this thread is that
- |>most Honda owners conveniently seem to forget the ridiculously
- |>high maintinence costs of their cars. I don't have to have my
- |>timing done (not till past 100K if ever, thanks to engine
- |>management). I don't have to have my valves adjusted routinely.
- |>I don't have to have a rubber timing belt replaced (mine is
- |>chain). Wait till you have to replace your timing belts to the tune of a
- |>couple hundred bucks (at 60K)....you will still be singing the
- |>"reliability" song. That's what annoys non-Honda owners.
-
- Well, my first Honda has 106K before I gave it up for my current Honda
- (at about 18k). I'll agree the timing belt is expensive to change. On my
- first Honda, I didn't have it done until 90K (probably living a little on
- borrowed time :-) ).
- If you get the timing belt done, you might consider getting the
- water pump replaced at that time. From what I understand, much to the
- labor overlaps with that of the timing belt.
-
- But overall, most of the maintenances are adjustments and checks.
- Now you can opt to skip them - most aren't all that necessary anyways -
- but the idea is that it helps extend the life of the car.
- I seriously doubt a Honda would be in any worse shape than an American
- car if they both used the American maintenance schedule...
-
- I'll probably do most of mine myself except for the major ones.
- Actually, on my first one, I skipped a lot of them period.
-
- I guess the difference is that I've never had a Honda break down and
- leave me stranded with the exception of needing a jump. And I didn't
- need anymore jumps after I stuck a Die-Hard Gold in there... :-) I little
- over kill. But after having to get a jump in sub-zero Chicago weather, I
- wanted a battery that could light up Soldier Field + 2 boats + a plane,
- etc.. :-)
-
- I also continously run into people who have Hondas well over 200K.
- One guy at work has had about 5 so far....
-
- The thing that impresses me about Honda is that I've gotten extremely
- good support from them even after warranties expirations...
-
- Heck, Honda even covered an item that I wanted to replace myself.
- I was asking for a quote and my service guy tells me that Honda
- will cover it.
-
- |>So I paid $125 (after 50K miles). I rather have that than several
- |>special dealer visits that would have totalled more than that.
- |>You Honda owners sound like all you've done is put gas in and
- |>change the oil (and filters, etc). I think this was the point of
- |>the original poster.
-
- I know a couple of people who did exactly that with their Hondas...
- I mean they barely changed the oil in over 100K... That impressed me a
- great deal... I figure if I actually take care of the car, I should
- be able to hit 2-300K easy... And the way I put miles on, I need it.
-
- I've put a fair amount of maintenance in my Hondas both at home and
- at the shop. But I'd rather those minor expenses which I can easily budget
- than those major unexpected ones. I'd say I had about $3000 total in 106K
- on my first Honda and that included timing belt, clutch and several brake
- jobs. Not too bad...
-
- I know plenty of American car owners and just shiver when I hear about their
- service experiences. I've been looking at a couple of US products but
- have been scared by the first hand stories that I have heard.
- It seems that American cars are great until you have to get them serviced
- and then you meet the American car service person...
- And then it's bad news.
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