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- From: hunter@work.nlm.nih.gov (Larry Hunter)
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- Subject: Re: CD vs. LP again
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 19:59:51 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: DPierce@world.std.com's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:43:03 GMT
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- You know, I've been dying for something to argue with Dick Pierce about. In
- all the years (yes, it's been quite a few now) I've been reading his posts,
- I have yet to find anything really arguable in what he has to say (and much
- of great value). But now I have something:
-
- "Now scoff if you will at my particular musical tastes, but it point out
- the deep validity of your point. Much of the esoteric repetoire is simply
- not available, and may never be available on CDs. Period"
-
- This is, as Dick likes to say, not wholly inaccurate. However, I would
- suggest that, in the long run, a great deal MORE esoteric music will be
- available as a result of the advent of mass market music CDs. A great deal
- of music that had never made it to vinyl has become or is now becoming
- available because of the advent of CDs.
-
- Perhaps we have no real disagreement. It is certainly the case that some
- valuable music that was released on vinyl will never make it to CD. That's
- why *I* own a turntable (and just bought a far-too-expensive new cartridge
- for it). On the other hand, I have been impressed at how much of the LP
- catalog of the major labels has made it to CD. Granted, the CD releases of
- esoteric music tend to go out of print just as fast as the LP releases did,
- but that's not a problem with the medium.
-
- There are two factors that combine to make a tremendous amount of esoteric
- music available on CD. First, the media production cost per delivered
- minute of CD is MUCH lower than for LP. Many progressive labels have taken
- advantage of this to release wonderful esoteric material that would never
- have made it to LP. Rhino Records, for example, has done a tremendous job
- at releasing CDs jammed full of rare and wonderful music. My tastes in
- music are rather different than Mr. Pierce's, although I have similar
- problems in my taste being far out of the mainstream. I was delighted to
- find that I could buy the complete Stax Records' catalog (a 9 CD set), or
- the complete set of Stiff singles (5 CDs). Tracking down all the vinyl
- releases of Stiff singles would have been nearly impossible and VERY
- expensive. The recent trend towards massive, archival CD box sets has
- accelerated because collectors are willing to spend the money on CD
- collections that they apparently would not spend on LP versions (large LP
- "albums" were tried many times, without much commercial success).
-
- The second factor is big difference in the entry price for producing a run
- of CDs. Although not yet as inexpensive as making cassette tapes, it is
- possible produce small quantities of audio CDs at prices that allow them to
- be sold competitively. This small initial outlay requirement makes it
- possible for undercapitalized labels (even individual artists) to produce
- CDs -- with money that wouldn't come close to producing LPs. There is a
- thriving market in esoteric music CDs that the major record labels would
- never touch. Independent labels (e.g. "Flying Fish" in New Zealand) are
- producing CDs these days, not LPs. Until recently, the only way to find
- this kind of out of the mainstream music was on vinyl singles, or worse yet
- cassettes; now it's primarily CD. The price of producing a small run of CDs
- is falling rapidly, too.
-
- Of course, the distribution challenges facing producers of esoteric CDs are
- no less than those facing LP producers, and it is not always easy to find
- the obscure music of one's desires. Nevertheless, I think it is clear that
- CDs are making it easier to find this sort of thing, not harder.
-
- Finally, don't confuse the large total quantity of obscure vinyl in the
- world compared to obscure CDs. This is due simply to the long history of LP
- sales. The current catalog of available esoterica is larger on CD than LP,
- and that will continue. Total CD esoterica is rapidly catching up, and will
- ultimately surpass the total LP quantity.
-
- Sad to say, this doesn't mean that your favorite old record is guaranteed to
- come out on CD. But do keep your eyes open.... I had been looking for a
- copy of the Miles Davis "Live at Carnegie Hall (The Legendary Concert of May
- 1961 with Gil Evans)" on CD for at least five years, and looking hard.
- Frustratingly, a CBS release of "More Music From the Legendary Concert" has
- been easily available, but not the original. Just about two weeks ago, I
- finally found a copy at Ameoba Records in Berkeley -- a brand new Japanese
- release, for $22. I was slightly disappointed to find that the distortion I
- had always attributed to my lovingly-cared-for-but-aging vinyl was really in
- the master tape, but I am overjoyed to have found it anyway. That is, Dick,
- what makes a record (CD?) collector's heart sing....
-
- Larry
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