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- From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
- Subject: Re: opinions on nature's bounty
- Message-ID: <C1Kq1n.L72@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- References: <16B648DDD.TDOPER35@ysub.ysu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:03:23 GMT
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- TDOPER35@ysub.ysu.edu writes:
-
- >What is your opinion of nature's bounty? Do you think it still has growth pote
- >ntial? Would you buy it now?
- >
- >DOGGER
-
- In an interview with Barron's, the management of Nature's
- Bounty mentioned they had acquired some low multiple companies.
- If you don't understand why Barron's shuddered, this is a
- very old game and works like this:
-
- Suppose you have a P/E of say 50. Say you make
- a million, and use that to acquire a company with a P/E of 4.
-
- Company A: P/E = 50, earnings per share (EPS) = $1.00
- earn $1 million price $50 million shares 1 million
- long term debt: nil
- cash: $4 million
-
- buy:
-
- Company B: P/E = 4, eps = $1.00
- earn $1 million price $4 million shares 1 million
- long term debt: nil
- cash: nil
-
- Company A+B: P/E = 25 eps = $2.00
- earn $2 million price $50 million shares 1 million
- long term debt: nil
- cash: nil
-
- By this acquisition, the company has doubled its earnings in
- a year, and haved it's P/E. Based on this remarkable performance,
- the price is bid up the old P/E. This leads the company to
- declare a 2:1 split.
-
- Company A+B: P/E = 50, earnings per share earnings per share (EPS) = $1.00
- earn $2 million price $100 million shares $2 million
- long term debt: nil
- cash: nil
-
- It looks like the company is doing very well. It is at the same P/E,
- and has doubled its earnings in a year.
-
- The point is that high P/E companies can, by simply buying low
- P/E companies, give the impression of growth when nothing is
- really happening. Nature's Bounty is generating quite a bit of
- its growth this way, management freely admits it.
-
- I also don't think that mail-order vitamins is a market that
- is so hard to break into. If the area is so lucrative,
- why don't we invest our own money and start our own company
- instead of investing in Nature's Bounty?
-
- -Larry Watanabe
-
-