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- From: pratyush@sequent.com (Pratyush Jaiswal)
- Subject: Re: Investing around hyperinflation
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:26:58 GMT
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- In article <185075@pyramid.pyramid.com> breid@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com (Bill Reid) writes:
- >In article <185056@pyramid.pyramid.com> pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi) writes:
- >>
- >>Putting aside the question of whether the US is headed towards
- >>insolvency and some kind of hyper-inflation, what is a good
- >>investment strategy to protect investments through a period of
- >>hyperinflation. Is it as easy as "getting out" of dollars?
- >>
- >If the situation in Brazil over the last decade is any guide, the
- >goal is to have as many dollars as possible, and invest the
- >vast majority of them in short term money funds. The rich in Brazil
- >have managed to keep their money this way, while moderate to low
- >income people have been decimated by inflation, because they don't
- >have the minimum capital requirements to invest (every cruziero goes
- >for sustanance, not savings). The interesting thing is that a
- >deflationary spiral (also possible) would have a similar strategy,
- >but either not invested at all (probably the best strategy), or
- >going to the long end of the bond spectrum.
-
- The common wisdom has been to hold commodities (read gold), or the currency
- of other countries that you expect to be stable. Note that in the past,
- governments have tried to even close that avenue, e.g. Mexico essentially
- took all dollars deposited in banks, and gave the owners local currency at
- official exchange rates. (Lotsa Americans got burnt by this, since it had
- been pretty popular to get great returns on CDs of banks doing business in
- Mexico.)
-
- I tried to answer the above question sometime ago, for myself, and couldn't
- come up with a very coherent solution. The problem is quite complex.
- In the process, I read several books that talked about such topics, from
- Paul Volcker's new book, to Figgie's, to books about the Debt crises of the
- past (not limited to the eighty's).
-
- One of the reasons for the difficulty is that there is really no good
- historical precedent for such a scenario. *All* of the past such cases
- have been where the debtor country does not control the currency in which
- the debt is denominated. Over the past couple of decades, the yen and the
- mark have come up in the financial markets, but the US dollar is still
- the predominant currency for transactions.
-
- Another unique aspect is that in the past cases, most of the debt was owed
- to "outsiders". I don't have exact numbers, but most of the US debt is held
- by Americans, in one form or another. It does make the case somewhat more
- complicated. What seems to surprise me is the ease with which the US treasury
- is able to borrow. Perhaps the end is near, but a lot of people have believed
- that for quite some time now.
-
- For various reasons, I consider a collapse of the US ecenomic system, a la
- Latin America seems most improbable to me. The dollar influences too many
- aspects of the international financial system for something like that to
- happen, since such a collapse will not leave anyone unaffected.
-
- I'd be interested to hear of other people's opinions. (I know it's not
- allowed on usenet, but) Please try and make a rational case for your
- opinions, and not pick up on just one point.
-
- Pratyush Jaiswal.
-
- p.s. I learnt some interesting history from a couple of my books. Here's a
- sample:
-
- 1. Did you know that earlier this century, British and German ships bombed
- Venezuela to convince it to make its debt payments?
- 2. Or that the US marines were sent to the Dominican Republic to collect
- customs fees, and impound a part of that as payments for its debt to
- European banks?
-